Townhall - Curial Commentary and Chat

[Aikanár]

I'd have thought it would be the other way around. Spending 3 months as a citizen probably won't increase your knowledge of the ToS. Knowledge of citizen standards is something that you learn over time as a citizen though.

We have standards?

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You know I couldn't resist that one

[mishkin]

(my TWC chip may be a bit rusty)

I always thought comunication between moderators and users was private (unless users decide to make it public going to the tribunal)
Now if a citizen receives an administrative note (or whatever) its going to be automatically public through the staff referral threads?

[Aikanár]

No, it is not automatically published. It is the referred citizens choice whether it is made public or kept in private quarters.

[mishkin]

Now I remember that discussion.
Perfect, thanks

[Makrell]

(my TWC chip may be a bit rusty)

I always thought comunication between moderators and users was private (unless users decide to make it public going to the tribunal)
Now if a citizen receives an administrative note (or whatever) its going to be automatically public through the staff referral threads?

You choose it when you recieve the referral. In this case i wanted to see the discussion that led to the final decision.

[mishkin]

You choose it when you recieve the referral. In this case i wanted to see the discussion that led to the final decision.

And, by the way, you acted exemplarily imo

[Bethencourt]

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[Veteraan]

Well, he must apply for it himself. But maybe busy Pike needs some poking too.

[PikeStance]

I do not have any of the citizen groups listed within the permission group section. I assume someone is the leader of the group with the ability to add new members, but I have no clue who does. A PM was sent to the admin.

Edit: All sorted

[PikeStance]

FYI of my activity
Starting on July 1
Overnight train to Beijing to drop of application for Indonesian Visa.
It would not be ready for two days. We still need to pack so, we head back on Thursday on a speed train.
July 3: Spent the day packing boxes to be ship to Indonesia. Board another overnight train (this time I went alone).
July 4: Pick up Passports in the afternoon took high speed train back to Changchun.
July 5 and 6 Packing and last minute errand. We actually decided to pack one more box too.
July 7 (early in the morning 5 AM) I left for NOLA. Due to time difference arrived in the afternoon of the 7th.
July 8 Repack for Chicago and get rental car.
July 9 Drove 14 hours to Chicago.
July 10 clear out/ gathered my stuff from my storage in Chicago and drove to Springfield Illinois (horrible traffic on 55 out of Chicago).
July 11 Drove to Memphis to spend time with my Brother's family.
July 12 Memphis
July 13 Drove back to New Orleans.
July 14 and 15 Finally nothing to do
July 16 drove to Baton Rouge and back.

Not much to do now until I leave for Indonesia between August 5-6.
edit: Talk that I will go see my sister in Florida (1 day drive)

[PikeStance]

Iskar is now my CA.

[mishkin]

FYI of my activity

"I have been bussy" would have been enough

Iskar is now my CA.

good choice

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

Originally Posted by PikeStance
FYI of my activity

"I have been bussy" would have been enough

For you. However there are others who are greateful for the details cuz inquiring minds want yo know....

Originally Posted by PikeStance
Iskar is now my CA.

Excellent choice...

[PikeStance]

"I have been bussy" would have been enough

For you. However there are others who are greateful for the details cuz inquiring minds want yo know....

I am southern; I over share. You should be use to it by now.

good choice

Excellent choice...

I love the enthusiasm.

[Iskar]

I find it a sad indictment of the curia that still, after all these years, tries to foist 'ranks' with awards.

I'm a bit confused here what that means. By Section I, Article I Artifex, as a subcategory of Citizenship, is a rank, while by Section V, Article III Opifex is an award, that happens to automatically confer the rank of Artifex.
I probably lack the experience necessary to judge this, so is there a practical and/or theoretical difference between ranks and awards or not? I would intuitively say that ranks are conferred always with partial regard to the recipient as a person, while awards are solely tied to a more or less clearly defined acomplishment, that may involve consideration of personality (e.g. Asterix's Loincloth) but not necessarily so (e.g. Opifex).

Please, - without any sarcasm in saying so - do enlighten me.

[Halie Satanus]

Rank is an archaic term left over from a time when there were different classes (ranks) of citizen, Civitate/Patrician, in addition staff/moderators positions were elected, which also added to the idea of ranks. That and the fact some citizens truly believed becoming a citizen made them 'special' and better than all other members. An attitude which sadly finds new converts every now and then.

It was stipulated in the Opifex award that citzenship was 'conferred' to take into account members who's work was exceptional but wished to decline citizenship should they wish.

[Iskar]

So for all practical issues citizenship is handled like an award?

Would it then not be feasible to discuss an amendment removing the misleading term of rank from the Constitution and replacing it by a wording of "awarding a member with Citizenship"?

[Halie Satanus]

It has been discussed, but as with anything around here, most don't see it as an issue until it becomes an issue.

[PikeStance]

I seem to remember it being bogged down in alternative terminology. The Curia has a habit when multiple solutions are offered of getting mired into exhaustion.

[Ngugi]

Done His Part - service guarantees citizenship

If you were assessed as an Artifex you should display the Artifex badge and no other, to do otherwise is dishonest and an insult to those members who worked for the award they were judged on.

There is no Artifex