Townhall - Curial Commentary and Chat

**Flinn** · May 02, 2024, 05:25 AM

The thing I like the most of you is that you don't hold grudges, even with yourself

**mishkin** · May 02, 2024, 06:27 AM

What you like most about me is my long blonde hair

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and now you will always associate Bowie's Sorrow with her. MUAHAHAHA

**Flinn** · May 02, 2024, 08:03 AM

Goddammit mish, I just had my lunch

**Narf** · May 02, 2024, 11:23 AM

Flinn not fan of blonds i guess.

**Flinn** · May 03, 2024, 03:30 AM

No I'm not a fan of fascists, whatever "color" they might be

**Basileos Leandros I** · May 04, 2024, 11:52 AM

So, in the end, what happened with the whole Consul / Admin thing from a month or two ago? Just logged in after a while and it's pretty quiet around here...

**mishkin** · May 04, 2024, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Basileos Leandros I

So, in the end, what happened with the whole Consul / Admin thing from a month or two ago? Just logged in after a while and it's pretty quiet around here...

There is a new constitution

It seems that the few citizens who still passed by here from time to time are not very happy with the decision that the consul has been chosen by the administration given the conduct shown by the previous one the citizens had elected. In my opinion, the only thing that has changed is this discontent, essentially nothing is diferent, even if someone wants to be a consul or magistrate they can apply, no one is going to prohibit it, A minimum number of users supporting a not absolutely crazy candidacy would, I suppose, be accepted by the administration.

**Flinn** · May 06, 2024, 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by mishkin

There is a new constitution

It seems that the few citizens who still passed by here from time to time are not very happy with the decision that the consul has been chosen by the administration given the conduct shown by the previous one the citizens had elected. In my opinion, the only thing that has changed is this discontent, essentially nothing is diferent, even if someone wants to be a consul or magistrate they can apply, no one is going to prohibit it, A minimum number of users supporting a not absolutely crazy candidacy would, I suppose, be accepted by the administration.

Not if I manage to convince the Hex to make me into the Dictator. You can trust my honesty, can't you?

But seriously, I think Leandros wants to know more in details what happened. @Leandros, basically the elected Consul abused his powers and was removed from the office by the Hex. But the problem comes from far my dude: I'm not going to tell the full story again, but let me tell this: the Curia, as it was in the past, has no more sense to exist, the same is true for the Tribunal. Can things change? sure they can, but until more life will come into this site, the Hex (and I share their view) decided to reduce Curia's needs for people to the minimum by appointing me as a perpetual Consul and by reducing the number of active fora. It is still possible to nominate people for awards and propose amendments and decisions, but we don't need anymore to run elections (for which we struggled to find candidates, even more proper candidates), nor post curial reports and all that sort of useless stuff that only bored people. AFAIK the Tribunal part is still under development.

You can read more here https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...n-Curia-future and here https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...the-Union-2024

**mishkin** · May 06, 2024, 05:35 AM

my response was better. and I haven't had to resort to including photos of spectacularly beautiful men.

**Flinn** · May 06, 2024, 08:13 AM

Goddammit, he was so sexy

**mishkin** · May 06, 2024, 08:19 AM

Is there anything known about the decomposition process of individuals who have undergone intensive cosmetic surgeries? Is it possible that if they dig it up it will be practically, ehem, uncorrupted? If so, could we attribute it not to the plastic materials on his body and face but to his holiness? Now please don't tell me he was cremated.

**Flinn** · May 06, 2024, 09:57 AM

He was cremated.. it was the only way for him to be buried on his personal mausoleum.. that's what they wanted us to believe anyways, in truth he faked his death, pretended to be cremated and now went back to his home planet, Bunga Bunga Prime, on the Mediaset Planetary System.

**Flinn** · August 06, 2024, 09:17 AM

just a stupid question, which comes from afar

as a staffer and especially as a Hex, I got every kind of offensive PMs over the years, most of which I've ignored completely (except for those who were connected to particularly abusive users involved in the probation process).. now I was just asking myself, what if instead of ignoring/reporting them, I just published them? I'm referring to the infamous citizenship higher standards, what would have been the consequences of doing so?

If I look at it moderation wise, as an abused user, I have no obligation to either report or even keep secret any abusive PM I might have received, so there won't be consequences for me; Moderation would probably take care of the published abusive PM in any case, but there would be that window of time during which some citizens would see it, and remember what's there..

So again, assuming both the abused and the abuser were citizens, what would be the consequences of doing anything like that? It's a purely theoretical question, I just want to see if maybe there was a venue for ostrakones that no one ever considered.

ps yes I'm horribly hot and bored these days

**Dismounted Feudal Knight** · August 06, 2024, 11:45 AM

The further back you go, the more likely fellow red men would have been stirred and it might have been a gamble for whatever position you had at the moment. I doubt there's much of that these days, but correspondingly it wouldn't matter anymore either.

The rate of takedown/consequence could be less or nil if it was in some internal third party chat nobody leaked, or at this point even a more open server.

It probably would have helped in a few ostrakons to just let some of the greatest hits speak for themselves. Removing them has always kinda neutered the point of the ostrakon system and the idea of higher standard accountability.

**Flinn** · August 07, 2024, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by Dismounted Feudal Knight

It probably would have helped in a few ostrakons to just let some of the greatest hits speak for themselves. Removing them has always kinda neutered the point of the ostrakon system and the idea of higher standard accountability.

yeah, pretty much this

**Alwyn** · August 08, 2024, 08:05 AM

Flinn, for what it's worth, I think publishing abusive messages is a very good idea. Let everyone see what the people who sent those messages are like - as I see it, that's the consequence of publishing them.

**Flinn** · August 08, 2024, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by Alwyn

Flinn, for what it's worth, I think publishing abusive messages is a very good idea. Let everyone see what the people who sent those messages are like - as I see it, that's the consequence of publishing them.

I wish we had this discussion long ago...

**Sir Adrian** · August 08, 2024, 08:45 AM

On the flipside there are users who would see the published messages and think "I want my 15 minutes of fame" and just send you more.

**Tango12345** · August 09, 2024, 02:58 PM

Yes, that is always the risk. Personally, I'd go down the publish and (let them) be damned route anyway. If they carry on after that then Moderation can take out the trash.