Horse Grenadiers?

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  1. chickens1127 said:

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    Hello. I was wondering the other day, "Horse Grenadiers?"

    Horse grenadiers would be too awesome. However, the grenadiers had to dismount to throw their grenades accourding to Wikipedia. They also had a musket for foot combat.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_Troop_Horse_Grenadier_Guards

    Horse Grenadiers were attached to a Calvalry regiment just like Grenadiers would be to a line infantry. In each Horse Guards regiment, there would be a company of grenadiers.

    These soldiers could ride across the battlefield, dismount, throw grenades and a volley, and ride away, similar to regular dragoons.

    Horse Grenadiers were used in Royal Army from 1680- upwards to about 1800. I believe I read Louis and I might believe Napoleon had a small contingent of horse grenadiers.
    EDIT: I have found records of horse grenadiers up to 1808, still looking.

    Some mods have included horse grenadiers for E:TW, but would like to see this be mainstream in N:TW.


    Should they be in the game?
     
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    Lance-Corporal Jones said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by chickens1127 View Post
    Hello. I was wondering the other day, "Horse Grenadiers?"

    Horse grenadiers would be too awesome. However, the grenadiers had to dismount to throw their grenades accourding to Wikipedia. They also had a musket for foot combat.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_Troop_Horse_Grenadier_Guards

    Horse Grenadiers were attached to a Calvalry regiment just like Grenadiers would be to a line infantry. In each Horse Guards regiment, there would be a company of grenadiers.

    These soldiers could ride across the battlefield, dismount, throw grenades and a volley, and ride away, similar to regular dragoons.

    Horse Grenadiers were used in Royal Army from 1680- upwards to about 1800. I believe I read Louis and I might believe Napoleon had a small contingent of horse grenadiers.
    EDIT: I have found records of horse grenadiers up to 1808, still looking.

    Some mods have included horse grenadiers for E:TW, but would like to see this be mainstream in N:TW.


    Should they be in the game?
    During the Napoleonic wars, grenadiers didn't carry grenades.
     
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    Raradir said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance-Corporal Jones View Post
    During the Napoleonic wars, grenadiers didn't carry grenades.
    Yea but knowing CA they will lol
     
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    Lance-Corporal Jones said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raradir View Post
    Yea but knowing CA they will lol
    They'll probably lob them from horseback at full gallop after people complained they were underpowered -- something like a cross between the Green Goblin and a Mongol horse-archer
     
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    REQUIEM said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance-Corporal Jones View Post
    They'll probably lob them from horseback at full gallop after people complained they were underpowered -- something like a cross between the Green Goblin and a Mongol horse-archer
    Haha they'll add the cantabrian circle so the horse grenadiers will keep up continuous nade throwing while running round in circles of horseback getting caught on fences which will result in CTDs everytime.
     
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    ♔DoomBunny666♔ said:

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    Trouble is it can cause glitches, for instance if you accidently fire the nades while on horses it causes a crash, due to buggered up anims.

    But if they find a way to stop that why not?

    Shoot coward! You are only going to kill a man!
     
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    REQUIEM said:

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    Like Lance Corporal Jones has said - they never used grenades in the napoleonic wars
     
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    Baldos said:

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    Grenadiers did not use grenades during the Napoleonic era. The title was used for elite units --the pick of each battalion. Horse Grenadiers where the most elite heavy cav in Napoleons Imperial guard.
     
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    Blofeld2k said:

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    Well, if you can have native american artillery then why not grenades during Napoleon?
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    ♔DoomBunny666♔ said:

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    Native american 24lbers but no Grenades, wow.

    Shoot coward! You are only going to kill a man!
     
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    And while there at it why not add a 60ft disco dancing Stalin with laser eyes...

    Shoot coward! You are only going to kill a man!
     
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    Lance-Corporal Jones said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBunny666 View Post
    And while there at it why not add a 60ft disco dancing Stalin with laser eyes...
    Why the hell did you have to unveil our Special Units of Russia pack?!?!
     
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    T.C. said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBunny666 View Post
    Trouble is it can cause glitches, for instance if you accidently fire the nades while on horses it causes a crash, due to buggered up anims.

    But if they find a way to stop that why not?
    Well thats easy - just remove the "throw grenades" ability in unit_stats_land

    Quote Originally Posted by Baldos View Post
    Grenadiers did not use grenades during the Napoleonic era. The title was used for elite units --the pick of each battalion. Horse Grenadiers where the most elite heavy cav in Napoleons Imperial guard.
    Yeah, the Grenadiers were the tallest, stongest men. They even kept the mitre hat (which was originally used as a throwing advantage) after the grenades were gone to add to this 'scary factor'.

    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBunny666 View Post
    And while there at it why not add a 60ft disco dancing Stalin with laser eyes...
    And even more crazy - ninja soliders who can climb walls using magical grappling hooks
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    ♔DoomBunny666♔ said:

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    Did I mention this Stalin has a pet hamster called Mr. Tibblesworth?

    Shoot coward! You are only going to kill a man!
     
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    Those guys don't throw grenades

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    KLAssurbanipal said:

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    Horse Grenadiers in Napoleonic Wars = Elite Dragoons Guards
     
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    Sol Invictus said:

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    I've always loved these guys. Creme de la creme.
     
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    TheAussieDigger said:

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    Grenadiers a Cheval are a necessity

     
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    Icewolf said:

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    i hope they dont throw grenades... i like to imagine if i joined a unit back then i would have been a grenadier, im 6"4 and i spent 4 months digging holes for power line poles so i got some pipes... just a fleeting fancy
     
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    Sevachenko said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icewolf View Post
    i hope they dont throw grenades... i like to imagine if i joined a unit back then i would have been a grenadier, im 6"4 and i spent 4 months digging holes for power line poles so i got some pipes... just a fleeting fancy
    Yep, sounds like it. I'd rather be one of those artillery guys anyways. Better deaf than dead! I do pray though that CA does not give them grenades, then again thats what a modders magic is for.