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    THE GREEK LEAGUE


    a submod of
    Warlords Of Sparta
    Classic Edition
    by DaVinci and Athenogoras

    About
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    A greek-only submod which takes the classic version of "Warlords Of Sparta" one step further
    It is a small submod which offers no radical gameplay-changes or graphical content and merely
    reflects the preferences and the playing style of the modmakers.


    Recommended Settings+Unitguide
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    This mod is developed and balanced for settings
    H/H
    Large unit-size
    Battletimer off
    Manage All Settlements
    Unitguide
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    Recruitable units

    All units(and ships) now requires the greek league-building(Krypteia-building renamed). This building is scripted to appear in conquered settlements. You just have to wait with the military structures until it appears

    Infantry
    Greek Hoplite: Everywhere once you build citybarracks
    Armoured Hoplite: All greece west of the hellespont + crete and Cyclades + Ionia(once you build citybarracks)
    City Hoplites: In respective city only(Thespians available in Opous)
    Macedonian Argyraspis and Epitagma: Available in region of Macedonia
    Arcadian Epitagma: Available in Olympia and Tegea
    Athenian Epitagma and Promachos: Athens only
    Corith Euzonos: Corinth only
    Ionian Epitagma: Ionian regions
    Thespian Promachos: Opous only
    Thracians: Thracian regions

    Missile
    Spartan helots: Only in Sparta and Tegea
    Skiritai: Only in Sparta and Tegea
    Greek Archer: AOR extended* not it Sparta or Tegea
    Greek Peltast: AOR extended* not in Sparta or Tegea
    Rhodian slinger: Only available in Ionia
    Greek elite archer: Available in Athens, Korinth, Thebes and Ionia
    Thracian Peltast: Available in region of Thrace


    Cavalry
    Greek Cavalry: Only available in Olympia and Tegea
    Ionian Cavalry: Only available in Ionia
    Athenian Cavalry: Athens only
    Thespian cavalry: Only available in Opous

    *AOR extended - All greece west of the hellespont + crete and Cyclades + Ionia


    Installation
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    SUGGESTION - BACKUP 300WOS FOLDER BEFORE INSTALL
    1, Extract TGL.zip anywhere
    2, Extract alexander.zip into "/Rome-total War"-directory
    3, Confirm "yes to all"


    Releases/Changelogs
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    Options Included
    - 2-hp EDU and including a
    -Trait and ancillary-file which only gives battlerelated traits and ancillarys.
    -preference-file included.


    Version 1.0
    - Only Greeks playable
    - Rewamped building tree, not all buildings are now available
    - Changed win-conditions, total eradication of Persian now not necessary
    - Changed end-date to 320BC
    - Changed recruitment, remade EDB
    - Remade EDU
    - Some new formations
    - Increased movementpoints on stratmap with 50%
    - Mercenaries: Changed replenishment rates and minor textchanges
    - Adjusted model for the scripted reinforcement hoplite, now fight with the right end of the spear

    Version 1.01
    - Nerfed elite cavalry(persian and greek)
    - Reduced size and strenght of ordinary greek cavalry
    - Textchanges in the menu

    Version 2.0
    - All units have 1hp(except berserking-units)
    - included descr_mount-file. Cavalry much less disruptive effect on formatiosn
    - AI-bonus-trait: command, morale and battlesurgery-bonus for its generals
    - Given all starting-members the spartan-trait(no-one else will gain it)
    - Changed recruitment: Krypteia-building(renamed to "the greek league") is needed for any military recruitment
    - reduced power of cavalry
    - added horsebonus for infantry with sword
    - EDB: removed experience-upgrade for temple, lowered cost and time for persian range and cavalry-barracks
    - reduced spear-bonus(mainly to improve cavalry-behaviour of AI)
    - minor textchanges in the description of traits and ancillarys
    - reduced chances of gaining traits and ancillarys
    - script: removed weapon-upgrades from the plataea-battle

    Version 3.0
    - New Wall assault and bridge-formations(modified Darth Vader formations)
    - New temple:Apollo, only in Delphi
    - Korinth and Athens have temples from the start(Aphrodite and Athena)
    - Models: Helots now hold javelin in hand
    - Reduced cost and upkeep of greek missileunits
    - Many small textchanges for traits and ancilliaries
    - Spartan bodyguard recruitment removed + upkeep lower for bodyguards
    - Ethnic traits implemented
    - Mines more profitable
    - reduced heat-effect of climate
    - added "is_peasant" for greek missileunits to make them worse as garrison
    - removed all epitephs except city-epitephs(for example "the great", "the lewd" etc)
    - 2 kings for Sparta
    - New description for the stratmap(for example instead of "factionleader" now "King Of Kings" for Xerxes)

    Version 4.0
    - Roma Surrectum 1.6-environment and grass
    - Small description-changes
    - preferences:disabled arrow-markers
    - New battle-map-lighting-file
    - Changed initial military infrastructure of Persians
    - Changed building-time slightly for military structures
    - Greek elite archers available also in Korinth, Thebes and Ionia(except Athens)

    Version 4.1
    - Changed stratmap-models. Family members now use the same as the Leonidas-model. Captains changed to former family member-model
    - Small textchanges
    - Changed light-conditions slightly, now a little more bright

    Version 4.2
    - Small text-changes
    - Added proper player formations with descriptions
    - Improved siege-formation
    - Changed default melee state(in formation-file) for missiles, now start with fire at will and skirmish off
    - removed 1 shield-defence for most peltasts
    - added wedge-ability for spartan bodyguard(only usable via the player-formation-buttons)

    Version 4.21
    - Small formation-change in the optional 2-hp-EDU
    - Change the optional preference-file to no anti-aliasing.

    Version 5.0
    - Made greek and Ionian rebel hoplites use overhand hoplite-animation, model-changes accordingly
    - Slave-faction now uses greek formations
    - Rebel helotes implemented(same look as ordinary helots but with different stats)
    - Name-change: spartan peltasts now named Skiritai, lydian hoplite now changed to lydian sparabara
    - Increased size of peasant rebellions in descr_rebel_factions
    - New sub-rebel-group:Helotes(in Sparta, Tegea and Ithome), increased risk of peasant rebellions here
    - Changed Thermopylae-battle, bigger armies and Ephialtes leading Hydarnes around the pass.
    - New formations Persia
    - Added auto-merge-script for all factions
    - small text-changes
    - Added Ephialtes-ancillary to Xerxes

    Version 5.1

    - Ephialtes made into "single"-man unit
    - Formation-tweaks
    - Model-changes:Changed position slightly of the hoplite spear, adjusted shield of the Antartes Hoplite
    ,adjusted shields of barbarian and ionian peltasts.
    - Changed Fort and Watchtower strat-models
    - Changed skeletons for some units, mainly archer-units which now have the dagger animation
    instead of the swordsman animation
    - Small textchanges

    Version 6.0
    - Aristeia strat-map sea implemented(with minor modifications)
    - Adjusted map RTR-style naval movement(restricted naval movement)
    - Adjusted map_height.tga for a smoother coastline. So far only finished Peleponnes and Euobia
    - Fixed slinger-sound for Rhodian slinger
    - Corrected skeleton-mistake for Rhodian slingers
    - Slight adjustment(fog) in descr_battle_map_lighting...
    - Made some multi-version units unavailable for custom-battles
    - Traits:
    - small changes in ethnic traits
    - added hidden movement-trait for all admirals
    - EDU:
    - adjusted stats for ships to make naval battles more decisive(less escaping)
    - Increased soldiers for persian archers(Thanvabara and Kushite archers)
    - Increased training-time for Sparabara and Takabara infantry(from 1 to 2)

    Version 6.1
    - New sea,shore and waves
    - Changed strat-models for greek and eastern fishing village(removed trees)
    - Fixed pink spot on Chios(map_ground)
    - changed citylocation for Aigina(now not in sea)
    - Edited placement of resources
    - Changed faction-colours on stratmap
    - Removed borders on minimap and stratmap
    - Changed radarmaps to be more dark
    - Smoothified coastline


    Ethnic Traits
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    As I am a beginner on making traits I would be grateful for any feedback.
    My main inspiration are Suppanuts traits for XGM(a mod made by DimeBagHo)

    These are the ethnic traits available in TGL

    Traits Effects
    -Spartan +1hp,+2morale,+2influence,-2management
    -Athenian +1morale,+1commandwhenattacking,+1influence
    -Korinthian 5%bonusontrade,-1squalor
    -Delphic +1law,-1unrest +Only one who can have priest of Apollo as ancillary
    -Theban -1influence,5%bonusonunit-recruitment
    -Thespian +1morale,+1commandwhendefending
    -Ionian +1commandagainstpersians,+1publicsecurity
    -Hellen no effects


    -All traits should come with a city-epiteph(of Sparta, of Athens etc).
    Ionian should come with several(of Miletos, of Samos, of Naxos etc).

    -Sons are coded to inherit fathers ethnic trait

    -All marriageproposals are coded to be spartans

    -Adoptions(usually after a turn) are coded to be mixed(all can appear)

    -Man of the hour-adoptions(if you fight a battle witout a general) are coded to be mixed.(all can appear except spartans)
    So if you want more Athenians or Thespians you have to win more battles without a proper general.

    New Player Formations

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    Designed for Large settings

    Plataea
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    Hoplite I
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    Hoplite II
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    Hoplite III-Marathon
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    Normal
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    Bridge and City
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    Column
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    Spartan Boar Snout(unhistorical)
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    New Thermopylae

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    Designed for Large settings
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    Eagle-view
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    The 300
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    Thebans, Thespians and Helots
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    Ephialtes guiding the persians
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    Theban left flank
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    "Molon labe"
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    Persian reinforcements, Ephialtes in the shadow
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    Thespians, Spartans and Helots in a hail of arrows
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    The last of the Spartan Hippeis
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    Leonidas killed
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    Outcome
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    Revised Map
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    New Stratmap Sea, Smooth Coast And Stratmodel
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    Before
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    After
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    Download
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    The Greek League (TGL)
    version 6.1
    TWC downloads


    Credits
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    Basemod:
    *All who contributed in the production of Halie Satanus
    "Warlords Of Sparta"
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    Halie Satanus: All Graphics, animation tweaks, base coding.
    Makanyane: Scripting, 'Thermopylae' custom-battle map, revised sky mod.
    Aradan: Coding, unit/campaign balance and being Greek (which helped a lot).
    MasterOfNone: Making things work, proof reading/correcting the text and fixing my mistakes.
    Uranos: Base map.
    *Suppanut and DimeBagHo of XGM(temple-descriptions and trait-inspiration)
    *Aradan and DaVinci for help finding nasty buglet
    *Roma Surrectum for permission to use their environment
    *The Lordz for permission to use their trees
    *Norman Invasion(NI) for Ephialtes and Watchtower-texture and unitcards
    *LOTR-TW for Ephialtes imaginary friends
    *Aristeia for permission to use their stratmap sea-textures and for textures and inspiration
    on how to remove borders on the stratmap
    Submod:
    (version 1.0)DaVinci - campaign changes, tech-tree changes
    (since version 1.01)Athenogoras
    Last edited by Athenogoras; March 07, 2010 at 01:28 PM.

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    Default Re: The Greek League - submod

    Nice one guys.

    Does DV make a sub mod of every mod he plays?..

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    Default Re: The Greek League - submod

    Does DV make a sub mod of every mod he plays?..
    Only the ones he deems worthy of his labour

    Edit: fixed info on stratmap-movement
    Last edited by Athenogoras; December 20, 2009 at 01:26 PM.

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    Cool release post, Atheno, well done

    One note still: Basic movement points on strat-map is increased by 50% (original vanilla value 80 is now 120).
    Also recommended: Battletimer off, and manage all settlements.
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    Default Re: The Greek League - submod

    Ok, adding. Although battletimer is off by default I think
    Edit:fixed
    Last edited by Athenogoras; December 20, 2009 at 01:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenogoras View Post
    Ok, adding. Although battletimer is off by default I think
    Edit:fixed
    Yes, it's of course only a "redundant" info, but i find it worth to mention, because of the scripted battles (Thermopylae, Palatae), where the player at least here should not take advantage with a battlertimer. Perfect TGL logo-picture btw.

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    Oh, and also in TGL is valid: Loosing Palatae is non-thinkable, start the mod anew if you do not win this battle (just better make a save-game before Palatae occurs).
    And again, H battle difficulty is the base for the balance, as is for the campaign difficulty. A super-strategist and tacticist can try VH/VH (not tested as of yet).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halie Satanus View Post
    Nice one guys.

    Does DV make a sub mod of every mod he plays?..
    300WOS is fantastic on its own, no question.
    As realism-lovers we have only changed your work to something that is a bit closer to a realism-modstyle for the concerning timeframe, in the first place for our personal preferences while playing your mod - in the end we decided to offer our submod product to the public, just for the ones who perhaps like an alternative. And for the average player, who likes to try H/H difficulty, it'll be a good challenge, but should be doable.
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    Default Re: The Greek League - submod

    Great shots, especially like the pose in "Molon lab,'' Can't recall coming across that one before.

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    Yes, Thermopylae provides a complete new charme
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    Iirc., already 2013 i spoke of "Renaissance of Fascism", it was accurate.
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    Thanks! BTW is that the Thebans in you avatar. IMO probably the coolest of your hoplites. That mighty herculian club ready to smite all persian evil-doers.

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    A'yup, I just love that face mask.

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    Could you post a pic of the sea texture.

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    Sure, updated first post(including the new map)

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    Ah right, wow that's different, looks like someone has been dumping sewage.

    Love that shore texture.

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    looks like someone has been dumping sewage
    Its expresionism man...expresionism...exploring my inner thoughts.

    Next stop:Kubism

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    Lol, it's your mod you do what you like with it..Just a bit of a shock, I was expecting something more blue that's all.

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    To some extent the colour can also be changed in the water_surface.tga in the campaign-folder(which I have done) where I can give it a more blue look.
    Overall I like the changes though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halie Satanus View Post
    Lol, it's your mod you do what you like with it..Just a bit of a shock, I was expecting something more blue that's all.
    I thought the same about the missing blue tone, and afaik, Atheno will realise some more blue with his next update.

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    will a new version of this be out soon or should i start playing the older one now?

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    Default Re: The Greek League - submod

    Hopefully late tomorrow I have another version up which will contain estetic changes
    - smoother coastlines
    - different seacolour
    - different factioncolours
    - some changes in citylocation and harbours(requires a new campaign to take effect)

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