Ever feel guilty to be European?

[James the Red]

I know, we are not guilty of things our ancestors did and we shouldnt dwell on them because its up to us and future generations to help make the world a better place.

But still, sometimes its hard not to feel shame when thinking about what our ancestors did to other peoples. Particularly as an American of European dissent and what we did to the native americans. European South africans and European Australians too probobly have similar sentiments, but I cant talk for them because I am not one of them.

But does Europeans descended from ones that stayed in Europe ever feel guilty of these things, or you do you guys just let the blame rest on your colonies?

[Stavroforos]

You're not European if you're American, first of all.

But no, I don't feel any shame in anything that we Europeans have done. I disapprove of many things which were done by Europeans, but since I took no party in committing any of those deeds, I don't know why I should feel any personal shame.

[Ter]

You're not European if you're American, first of all.

But no, I don't feel any shame in anything that we Europeans have done. I disapprove of many things which were done by Europeans, but since I took no party in committing any of those deeds, I don't know why I should feel any personal shame.

And I'm from Northern Ireland so some of those deeds were more recent than most peoples.

[James the Red]

You're not European if you're American, first of all.

I'm an American of European dissent. rather than say, Asian for example.

[FaneFlugt.DK]

I think north and south America should be gratefull that they were colonized by euros and not arabs.

[alhoon]

You're not European if you're American, first of all.

But no, I don't feel any shame in anything that we Europeans have done. I disapprove of many things which were done by Europeans, but since I took no party in committing any of those deeds, I don't know why I should feel any personal shame.

Agreed.
I haven't even voted for the people responsible for European acts I would be ashamed of.

[Xander]

Not ashamed one bit. In fact i'm INCREDIBLY proud to be English.

Without us English you Americans would still be living tepees (it's a joke don't take it seriously)

[Phier]

Not ashamed one bit. In fact i'm INCREDIBLY proud to be English.

Without us English you Americans would still be living tepees (it's a joke don't take it seriously)

Being I'm mostly Irish by ancestry, without the English I'd have still been in Ireland

Of course without the English furbaring that homeland, my ancestors wouldn't have moved to America, so for me it worked out pretty well.

[HighDrawLicks]

Being I'm mostly Irish by ancestry, without the English I'd have still been in Ireland

Of course without the English furbaring that homeland, my ancestors wouldn't have moved to America, so for me it worked out pretty well.

HIGH FIVE!!!

[Sisko]

Well, as a Brit, we may sometimes get the brunt of abuse given some of the things that were done in forming our Empire back in the day.

My personal stance on the issue is this: I don't give a monkey's uncle what anyone says. I don't have anything to feel guilty about. I don't feel guilty, or sad about what was done in the past particularly because at the end of the day, we weren't the only ones carving up portions of the world to establish our Empire.

Back in the days of Empire building, it was part of the way things were done and it was survival of the fittest. If you had the biggest Empire, you had clout. And yes its not right, but whats done is done. But aside from that, every Empire has brought some good to the world. Whether it be the Romans, or the British or whoever.

[Dr. Croccer]

I disaprrove of some actions, but I'm not ''ashamed''. Why would I be.

[Heathen Hammer]

Nobody should feel guilty for what their ancestors did. If it wasn't you exactly, who commites something bad, than you shouldn't feel guilty for it either.

[Aru]

I feel neither ashamed nor proud. It is history, it simply is.

[C-Rob]

I feel neither ashamed nor proud. It is history, it simply is.

Perfectly said.

[Tiberios]

I know, we are not guilty of things our ancestors did and we shouldnt dwell on them because its up to us and future generations to help make the world a better place.

But still, sometimes its hard not to feel shame when thinking about what our ancestors did to other peoples. Particularly as an American of European dissent and what we did to the native americans. European South africans and European Australians too probobly have similar sentiments, but I cant talk for them because I am not one of them.

But does Europeans descended from ones that stayed in Europe ever feel guilty of these things, or you do you guys just let the blame rest on your colonies?

Why the hell should I feel guilty. I know my nation was involved in the slave trade but why should I go around and feel guilty. I don't think it was right or anything, but I feel no reason to be guilty.I'm proud of my nation and it's history.
I can't change anything that happened back then, so no. But I'm still thinking it was very wrong.

[Vizsla]

I am proud of the glorious achievements of my ancestors. I feel a duty to be a better person and to live up to their memory every day.
If people have been indoctrinated to be ashamed of Britain’s past then I find that very sad.


Cue howls of rage and indignation.

[James the Red]

You guys never felt even a little bad about what your people have done, ever? listen, I know we do not have guilt or shame of what our ancestors did, but 'feeling' a little bit guilty for those things at some point is natural. Otherwise you just seem heartless.

But hay, everybody has dirt in their ancestry. Arabs almost destroyed an entire monotheistic religion. Russia and all those people in north Asia. Japan and the Ainu. etc...

[Ter]

You guys never felt even a little bad about what your people have done, ever? listen, I know we do not have guilt or shame of what our ancestors did, but 'feeling' a little bit guilty for those things at some point is natural. Otherwise you just seem heartless.

No, I don't. As I said I'm from norn iron and wish things had been done differently (and that's much more recent that what you're mostly on about), but it wasn't me making the decisions and I feel no guilt or remorse at all. Occasionally disgust but it's all history.

For more clarification, it was before my time too.

[Ishoss]

You guys never felt even a little bad about what your people have done, ever? listen, I know we do not have guilt or shame of what our ancestors did, but 'feeling' a little bit guilty for those things at some point is natural. Otherwise you just seem heartless.

But hay, everybody has dirt in their ancestry. Arabs almost destroyed an entire monotheistic religion. Russia and all those people in north Asia. Japan and the Ainu. etc...

No. I don't have any fricking guilt.

[Stavroforos]

I don't think guilt is the word you're looking for. I think maybe remorse is better for what you're feeling, unless you find that you are somehow responsible for whatever happened to the Amerindians.