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    Default Nauru recognising South Ossetia and Abkhasia

    It happend a couple of days ago:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...-south-ossetia

    http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan.../D9CKIH5G0.htm

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    Russia said Wednesday that it could expand ties with the South Pacific island nation of Nauru after the world's smallest republic recognized two breakaway provinces of Georgia that had declared independence with Russian backing.
    Moscow recognized Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent states after the August 2008 war between Russia and Georgia. Only Venezuela and Nicaragua followed Russia's example before the Republic of Nauru's move this week.
    Foreign Ministry spokesman Andrei Nesterenko said that Nauru's recognition of independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia will boost their credentials and help stability in the region.
    Nauru has a population of about 10,000 people and an area of 8 square miles (21 square kilometers).
    The Kremlin rewarded Venezuela and Nicaragua with lucrative arms and energy deals. Nesterenko said that the Nauruan delegation had stopped in Moscow on its way to Abkhazia and South Ossetia and met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.
    "They talked about opportunities for expanding bilateral ties," Nesterenko said.
    Nauru has been desperate for cash after its phosphate deposits were largely depleted, and it tried to earn money by housing a refugee detention center for Australia. After its closure in 2008, the island nation has almost totally dependent on foreign aid.


    http://www.kyivpost.com/news/russia/detail/55036/20


    Overall I say - good for Nauru!

    They will get some money - most likely c.450 $ per each citizen which isn't bad for an act which doesn't cause any danger to this country.

    In the past theyrecognised Taiwan only to de-recognise it later (for money) and re-recognise it again.

    I doubt that it will be the case with Ossetia & Abkhasia unless Georgia decides to pay (which it might do just to annoy Russia), but Nauru already achieved something - free money, some headlines for free and maybe even slightly more tourists visiting the country.
    After all they are in an elite club with three other countries.

    Moscow probably achived something too - after all right now four countries from five continents (Europa, Asia, South and North America + Oceania) recognise the two countries.

    Now if they secure support from an african country that would be all what is necessary to announce: 'currently countries from almost the whole planet recognise Ossetia and Abkhasia'.

    I guess everybody is happy - Russia for the support, Nauru for the money, Ossetia and Abkhasia for the recognision and Georgia because it can mock Russia endlessly. Very rare situation nowadays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cegorach View Post

    They will get some money
    Way to undermine what was already an irrelevant event.

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    So a pimple of the South Pacific recognises a pimple of Eastern Europe for a few rubles... I think this is arguably the most non-event of international diplomacy this year.
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    Nauru...aren't they the ones who live on an island made of birdshit?
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    phosphate, not bird ****




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    phosphate, not bird ****
    Still smells.

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    When I first saw this I thought he meant Nehru, and I was like "I'm sure he's dead". I had never heard of Nauru, I'd be surprised if more than 12 people in the world know about them. In conclusion, I do not give a

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Ferguson View Post
    When I first saw this I thought he meant Nehru, and I was like "I'm sure he's dead". I had never heard of Nauru, I'd be surprised if more than 12 people in the world know about them. In conclusion, I do not give a
    That's quite ignorant.

    I feel bad for Nauru, they used to live on mining phosphate only to have it run out... Now their island is a holy--hole filled with nothing of value.
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    Default Re: Nauru recognising South Ossetia and Abkhasia

    I guess the thread should end up with some better written comment, from the Moscow Times:


    South Ossetia Wins Nauru’s Recognition

    17 December 2009
    By Nikolaus von Twickel

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    Abkhazia's president Sergei Bagapsh speaks in Sukhumi on Thursday, Dec. 10, 2009.

    Tiny Nauru on Wednesday completed its debut on the big battlefront of Caucasus politics by becoming the fourth country to recognize both Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent states.
    A treaty establishing the Pacific island nation’s diplomatic relations with South Ossetia was signed in Moscow, said South Ossetia envoy Dmitry Medoyev, who signed the document.
    The other signatory was Kieren Keke, Nauru’s foreign minister who had just arrived from Abkhazia, where he had signed a similar agreement Tuesday.
    Nauru’s recognition prompted a war of words between the governments in Tbilisi and Moscow.
    “This underlines the utter shame and complete collapse of Russia’s foreign policy. It is just trading and has nothing to do with politics,” Temur Yakobashvili, Georgia’s minister for reintegration, told The Moscow Times.
    But the Foreign Ministry was quick to dismiss any criticism from Tbilisi. “These skeptical comments just serve as more evidence of Georgian officials’ disdain for small peoples and states,” ministry spokesman Andrei Nesterenko said in a statement.
    Medoyev echoed those comments, saying in an interview that Nauru had merely exerted its sovereign right under the charter of the United Nations. “They are a full UN member, and I am saddened that [Georgia does] not honor this and people’s right to self-determination,” he said.
    National and international media have mocked the fact that after Moscow’s lobbying for more than a year, a destitute Pacific nation with barely more than 10,000 inhabitants occupying 21 square kilometers has become the third country to follow its lead in recognizing the separatist regions. The other countries are Nicaragua and Venezuela.
    Medoyev, however, said the size of a country has no effect on the legitimacy of its decision to recognize another state. “Size does not matter,” he said.
    He also dismissed a media report as “rumors” that Nauru had asked Moscow for $50 million in aid in exchange for its recognition.
    Nauru’s delegation led by Foreign Minister Keke actually visited South Ossetia’s capital, Tskhinvali, on Saturday. Asked why the recognition treaty was only signed in Moscow four days later, Medoyev said the Nauruans had not received permission then. “They only were authorized to do so on their way back to Moscow,” he said.
    Abkhazia’s foreign minister, Sergei Shamba, said Wednesday that Abkhazia would not open an embassy in Nauru but send a delegation to work at a representative office there at the beginning of next year, Interfax reported.
    Medoyev said South Ossetia would decide later if it would dispatch a delegation.
    Nauru is located about 14,000 kilometers from the Caucasus.
    Nauru has made headlines before for its seemingly opportunistic recognition policies. In 2002, it severed diplomatic relations with Taiwan in favor of relations with China, which, according to the U.S. State Department’s web site, had promised more than $130 million in aid.
    Three years later, the island switched sides again, and Taiwan subsequently rescued Nauru’s airline from bankruptcy. Currently, Nauru’s government web site boasts a banner saying, “Sponsored by the government of the Republic of China (Taiwan).”
    In the late 1990s, Nauru tried to become an offshore banking center , but acquired a reputation for providing cover to money launderers, including Russian organized crime.
    The Central Bank has said about $70 billion transferred from Russian banks to offshore destinations in 1998 ended up in banks chartered in Nauru.
    The Foreign Ministry said Nauru’s recognition of South Ossetia and Abkhazia will boost stability in the South Caucasus.
    “This will strengthen Abkhazia’s and South Ossetia’s international legal position. And it will widen the young republics’ international contacts,” ministry spokesman Nesterenko said.
    South Ossetian leader Eduard Kokoity said another 10 countries would soon follow suit. “The process of recognizing South Ossetia’s independence is irreversible,” he told Interfax
    Some of those statement are pretty close to really good, surreal jokes. Anyway, good for them.
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    Then we'll pay Nauru 451 dollar and 99 cents for a citizen to cancel their recognition,It will work for sure
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    Nauru is strange in every way but I can only support this move.m
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    Holy ... Nauru? MF'n Nauru!? When will those bastards stop?????

    On a serious note, I've never heard of nauru.
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    Nauru, naboo?

    If I get paid $450, I'd recognize them too. Gladly.
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    Not paid, it's a loan.
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    Before reading about this move I have actually heard about Nauru - but that is because I enjoy reading about the Pacific war against Japan which for some time occupied Nauru because of its natural resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPA35 View Post
    Not paid, it's a loan.
    Are you sure ? Not a single from five sources I've checked mentions anything about a loan.

    It is supposed to be humanitarian aid - 50 million $ of it for c. 11 thousand citizens it sounds like a good deal.
    In 2002 they de-recognised Taiwan for $130m from China so Russia paid less (25 mil $ for each recognision) so it is not that bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cegorach View Post
    Before reading about this move I have actually heard about Nauru - but that is because I enjoy reading about the Pacific war against Japan which for some time occupied Nauru because of its natural resources.
    NO, not the guano.






    Are you sure ? Not a single from five sources I've checked mentions anything about a loan.

    It is supposed to be humanitarian aid - 50 million $ of it for c. 11 thousand citizens it sounds like a good deal.
    In 2002 they de-recognised Taiwan for $130m from China so Russia paid less (25 mil $ for each recognision) so it is not that bad.
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    More people are in the graduating class of my university than live in Narau...
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    That's it Nauru: you are now officially on the "Axis of Terror" list. Prepare to be invaded!

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    I never even heard of Nauru before...

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    Have heard of it before.

    In, like, the Guiness Book of World Records.


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