Carthage Preview

**Brusilov** · December 17, 2009, 09:45 AM

This is going to be my Xmas period project.

Please feel free to post any interesting links for images and historical documents that can be used in a public thread.

Thanks.

Acknowledgements
Models:
All Tone apart from: Iberian light cavalry, Iberian scutarii, Iberian medium cavalry (Bebbe).
Skins:
Tone: Libyan skirmisher, Carthaginian marines, Sacred band infantry, Sacred band cavalry, Celtiberian spearmen, Celtic light swordsmen, Early libyan spearmen, Towered forest elephant, Late libyan spearmen, Libyan cavalry, Libyphoenician cavalry, Siege engine crew, Libyan light infantry, Elephant archer
Leif: All others

Sources
Armies of the Carthaginian Wars 265-146BC (Men-at-Arms series)
by Terrence Wise, Illustrated by Richard Hook
Osprey Publishing
ISBN-10: 0850454301
ISBN-13: 978-0850454307

Armies of the Macedonian and Punic Wars
By Duncan Head, Drawings by Ian Heath
Publisher: R.E.G. (Games) Ltd. Waregames Research Group)
ASIN: B001C42UCE

Suggested Reading:

The Roman Army of the Punic Wars (Battle Orders series)
by Nic Fields
Osprey Pubslishing
ISBN-10: 1846031451
ISBN-13: 978-1846031458

The War with Hannibal
by Livy
Penguin Classics
ISBN-10: 0140441451
ISBN-13: 978-0140441451

Hannibal: Enemy of Rome
by Leonard Cottrell
Da Capo Press Inc.
ISBN-10: 0306804984
ISBN-13: 978-0306804984

The Fall of Carthage: The Punic Wars 265-146BC
by Adrian Goldsworthy
Cassell Military Paperbacks
ISBN-10: 0304366420
ISBN-13: 978-0304366422

Cannae: Hannibal's Greatest Victory
by Adrian Goldsworthy
Phoenix
ISBN-10: 0753822598
ISBN-13: 978-0753822593

The Punic Wars: Rome, Carthage and the Struggle for the Mediterranean
by Nigel Bagnell
Pimlico
ISBN-10: 0712666087
ISBN-13: 978-0712666084

Internet sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Carthage

**apple** · December 17, 2009, 11:37 AM

Could we have some pics of premarian armies fighting Carthage please?

**tone** · December 17, 2009, 11:45 AM

that's the plan...

try here Brusilov - there's a bit of info: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=159141

**Brusilov** · December 17, 2009, 03:07 PM

Tone - thanks for the link (I've not looked at it yet though).

I've already fought a Pre-Marian army against Carthage (Celts, Libyans and Spanish). Tone is going to fix the Wolf's head I believe but I've spotted a glitch in the Republican Velite (where the arm goes through the shield) and a few other minor ones. I've also got to change the files to get the Campanian cavalry into custom battles for Rome (I couldn't see them but I know they are there for Carthage).

I've not taken any of the action so far but here is a couple of views of the advancing army (they are big - 2560x1600).

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Edited: I forgot to mention that these are being collected for the Roman Pre-Marian Preview that is for Xmas and not the Carthage one - I will have to collect other shots from that on different battlefields.

**tone** · December 17, 2009, 04:31 PM

Wow those shots are amazing!

**sithlord447** · December 17, 2009, 05:04 PM

hey Brusilov if you have time could you also take some pictures for the normal legion preview
like a legion vs gauls or germans or parthians or dacians

on another note where do i go to arrange what units can be used in custom battles as for my preview i would like to do some legion vs legion battles to show some of the major roman civil wars like ceaser vs pompey and year of the 4 emperors

**Brusilov** · December 17, 2009, 06:00 PM

@Tone - Is there a list of acknowledgements - who did which models/skins?

@Sithlord447 - I will see what I can do. If you list which units I may be able to find some time. I should be back in work next week so my time on-line will be reduced considerably - especially as I will be working away from home again.

**sithlord447** · December 17, 2009, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Brusilov

@Sithlord447 - I will see what I can do. If you list which units I may be able to find some time. I should be back in work next week so my time on-line will be reduced considerably - especially as I will be working away from home again.

ok ty as to the units, mostly roman cohorts of any legion in battle against a varied army(mixed elite and non elite ,cavalry and non cavalry ) against gauls/pontus/parthia/egypt for chainmail legions and for the later legions, germans/parthians/dacians/

if you don't have much time just snap only a few ingame ones and i can get the rest

**tone** · December 17, 2009, 06:29 PM

Models:
All Tone apart from: Iberian light cavalry, Iberian scutarii, Iberian medium cavalry (Bebbe).
Skins:
Tone: Libyan skirmisher, Carthaginian marines, Sacred band infantry, Sacred band cavalry, Celtiberian spearmen, Celtic light swordsmen, Early libyan spearmen, Towered forest elephant, Late libyan spearmen, Libyan cavalry, Libyphoenician cavalry, Siege engine crew, Libyan light infantry, Elephant archer
Leif: All others

**tone** · December 18, 2009, 01:25 AM

As long as we're consistent with the direction the units face. I'd like the "portrait shots" all to face towards the left. Also can we make sure that the right legions face the right enemies, like the eastern legions facing Parthians, the Danube legions facing Dacians / Sarmatians, etc, etc?

It'd be good to get a mix of environments and custom battle locations in there too, aiming for the most visually stunning preview we can get. Again, appropriate locations would be good.