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    story is on yahoo!

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    WASHINGTON – The estimated time when whites will no longer make up the majority of Americans has been pushed back eight years — to 2050 — because the recession and stricter immigration policies have slowed the flow of foreigners into the U.S.
    Census Bureau projections released Wednesday update last year's prediction that white children would become a minority in 2023 and the overall white population would follow in 2042. The earlier estimate did not take into account a drop in the number of people moving into the U.S. because of the economic crisis and the immigration policies imposed after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.
    The United States has 308 million people today; two-thirds are non-Hispanic whites.
    The total population should climb to 399 million by 2050, under the new projections, with whites making up 49.9 percent of the population. Blacks will make up 12.2 percent, virtually unchanged from today. Hispanics, currently 15 percent of the population, will rise to 28 percent in 2050.
    Asians are expected to increase from 4.4 percent of the population to 6 percent.
    The projections are based on rates for births and deaths and a scenario in which immigration continues its more recent, slower pace of adding nearly 1 million new foreigners each year.
    The point when minority children become the majority is expected to have a similar delay of roughly eight years, moving from 2023 to 2031.
    The population 85 and older is projected to more than triple by 2050, to 18.6 million.
    The actual shift in demographics will be influenced by a host of factors that can't be accurately forecast — the pace of the economic recovery, cultural changes, natural or manmade disasters, as well as an overhaul of immigration law, which may be debated in Congress as early as next year.
    As a result, the Census Bureau said the projections should used mostly as a guide.
    The agency also released numbers showing projections based on "high" rates of immigration — more likely if more-flexible government policies and a booming U.S. economy attract large numbers of foreigners — as well as "low" immigration, a possible scenario if U.S. policies don't change much while the economy substantially improves.
    _With high immigration, the minority "tipping point" is moved up to 2040, two years earlier than the previous estimate. At that time, Asians would have a much larger share, at 8 percent, since their population growth is more dependent on immigration than birth rates.
    _With low immigration, the "tipping point" arrives by 2045.
    Under a purely theoretical "zero immigration" scenario in which the U.S. effectively does not take in any immigrants, whites would remain the majority in 2050, making up a solid 58 percent of the U.S. population. In such a case, the share of Hispanics would increase to 21 percent because of high fertility rates and a younger population.


    so as a Latino (specifically a Mexican), I am not sure what to think of this. on one side, would like to see America grow more diverse, but on the other side I fear that the growth of minorities may spark racial violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manofarms89 View Post
    story is on yahoo!



    so as a Latino (specifically a Mexican), I am not sure what to think of this. on one side, would like to see America grow more diverse, but on the other side I fear that the growth of minorities may spark racial violence.
    Excellent, my grand children will have Equal Opportunity

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    Interesting. So will white people be given scholarships and "equal opportunities" even when they are in the minority, or will they still be seen as the evil imperial overlords?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    Interesting. So will white people be given scholarships and "equal opportunities" even when they are in the minority, or will they still be seen as the evil imperial overlords?
    we will be considered the same as they jews...the minority who controls everything behind the scenes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman View Post
    Wait what, Latinos aren't "white" ? Compared to what ?
    Yea I lived in spain for a while, you do not compare the Spanish to mexicans....unless you want to get beat up by a bunch of Spaniards. Latinos in the western hemisphere have a distinctly different heritage. Latino basically refers to the mixing of spanish and native/black blood. When the spanish colonized the americas, they had something like 8 different class hierarchies based on race. Pure blood was at the top.

    Latino is basically short for Latin America anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheuch13 View Post
    Yea I lived in spain for a while, you do not compare the Spanish to mexicans....unless you want to get beat up by a bunch of Spaniards.
    really? that's quite disappointing considering how supportive Mexico was to Spain during the 20th century.

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    There is a key miscommunication here: the majority will end, that is, white Americans will no longer make up a statistical majority (50+%) of the total population; but whites will still be the largest racial group in America, by a pretty substantial margin. Out of the 399 million projected people, 199 million will be white, 84 million will be Latino, and 36 million will be black. Whites will still be more than twice as large as the next largest racial group.

    Furthermore, who really cares?
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    OT:
    In a few decades I think countries will make immigration policies stricter + the south american economy is getting a good boost, so that means less people will go to the USA.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian View Post
    There is a key miscommunication here: the majority will end, that is, white Americans will no longer make up a statistical majority (50+%) of the total population; but whites will still be the largest racial group in America, by a pretty substantial margin. Out of the 399 million projected people, 199 million will be white, 84 million will be Latino, and 36 million will be black. Whites will still be more than twice as large as the next largest racial group.
    This. Besides, I live in Minnesota (still like 90% white), so I don't have to worry about the darkies taking over.


    jokes.

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    I find it rather amusing that American culture is being presented as ''Enlightened'', even thogh there has been segregationism, racism and discrimination since the very start of the country. Benjamin Franklin, in his book Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind, Peopling of Countries, etc. wrote:
    And European countries are banning minarets, your point? America and its enlightenment has more to do with with political enlightenment (y'know, free press, free speech, voting etc) And given where we started (which sucked unless you were a white landowning male) I'd say we've come a far way.
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    Good, very good. Enough of whites being a majority, the USA should be a melting pot with no race existing, let alone claiming majority or superiority.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers II View Post
    Good, very good. Enough of whites being a majority, the USA should be a melting pot with no race existing, let alone claiming majority or superiority.
    Eh...no. Without sounding racist I prefer to identify with a singular family origination history as opposed to seven. I like the way I am. Claiming superiority is not the same as claiming majority...you can't really claim majority...its just a fact.

    Though maybe it would finally force America to be more color blind, and that would be a novelty. I'm so sick of the preferential treatment afforded to minorities in basically every aspect of life in the US.

    @ BNS

    Its so ed up you wouldn't believe. There is such a huge sense of making amends for past discrimination that it is legal to discriminate on the basis of race to the majority. There are also some unpreffered racial groups that just got lumped into 'white' even when they clearly are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pøntifex View Post
    I'm so sick of the preferential treatment afforded to minorities in basically every aspect of life in the US.
    Especially in the courts, where IIRC a DoJ study on the topic from the early Nineties, being "Latino" tended to net you about one-third and "Black" one-half more severe punishements on the average than "Whites" got for equivalent offenses ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman View Post
    Especially in the courts, where IIRC a DoJ study on the topic from the early Nineties, being "Latino" tended to net you about one-third and "Black" one-half more severe punishements on the average than "Whites" got for equivalent offenses ?
    There are a lot of explanations for that. I believe that a victim complex felt within minority groups leads to a sense of hardship and dependence. The result of this is poverty, and the result of this is crime. Therefore it only makes sense that more members of minority groups are incarcerated.

    Crypts. Bloods. MS-13. These are all gangs forged in racial identity.

    Less white people (proportionately) are ever jailed because there is less poverty (proportionately) among whites. For some reason the government and special interest groups seem to think this means members of minorities should be given special treatment which actually doesn't make things better, but further enhances the sense of dependency I mentioned above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pøntifex View Post
    There are a lot of explanations for that. I believe that a victim complex felt within minority groups leads to a sense of hardship and dependence. The result of this is poverty, and the result of this is crime. Therefore it only makes sense that more members of minority groups are incarcerated.
    Right, it's obviously the disenfranchised ethnic minorities that were barely legally human fifty years ago have the baseless persecution complex, and not the comparatively privileged "White" majority that controls most of the economic and political power and whines about the "favourable" treatment the former so clearly get...

    Cry me a river, obviously persecuted white guy.
    Crypts. Bloods. MS-13. These are all gangs forged in racial identity.
    Unlike, say, the US Mafia and its peers ?

    Did it ever occur to you to wonder what exactly is it that makes these folks view the world in terms of "us vs. them" in the first place...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pøntifex View Post
    @ BNS

    Its so ed up you wouldn't believe. There is such a huge sense of making amends for past discrimination that it is legal to discriminate on the basis of race to the majority. There are also some unpreffered racial groups that just got lumped into 'white' even when they clearly are not.
    I'm part of the "Hispanic" minority because of that and I don't like it.

    What is even more disgusting is that recently in some cases they have even begun distinguishing between "Hispanic White" and "Hispanic", "Hispanic African" and "African American (non Hispanic)",and between "Hispanic (Cuban)" and "Latino" which is usually Mexican. You better bet that in all 3 cases the latter get preferential treatment. It's like within the discrimnation there are different levels of reparations through privileges to be paid.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BNS View Post
    I'm part of the "Hispanic" minority because of that and I don't like it.
    Hispanic heritage month is total , heck any heritage month/week/day is crap. Besides I'd be more concerned about un integrated immigrants as opposed to Americans with any level of Hispanic heritage.



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    BFD.

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    Wait what, Latinos aren't "white" ? Compared to what ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman View Post
    Wait what, Latinos aren't "white" ? Compared to what ?
    We consider them a separate race here in North America. Apparently this is weird to Europeans. But when we say "Latino" we really mean mestizo, which could certainly be considered a separate race from "white" (if you accept that Native Americans are a separate race from white). We don't consider people from Spain or Portugal "Latino", they would just look white to us.

    But yeah, as a white guy, I don't really care whether whites are the overwhelming majority or not. The country is no better or worse depending on the percentages of the population who are this race or that race. We have far, far more pressing problems.

    Of course, this will send a few rabid white supremacists into a frenzy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian View Post
    Of course, this will send a few rabid white supremacists into a frenzy.
    So much the better. The BNP Must Be Destroyed, and that means getting rid of their allies in the USA.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers II View Post
    So much the better. The BNP Must Be Destroyed, and that means getting rid of their allies in the USA.
    Somehow I don't think the majority of American white supremacists have any idea what the BNP is, or even where Britain is.

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