A christian girl ...

[MrMofo]

A christian girl and a guy who's an atheist. Fabulous connection in every way but that one.

A good example of a modern mixed couple i guess.

Could that work?

[Godfrey I of Leuven]

Yes.

[♔Goodguy1066♔]

Shouldn't this thread go in the relationship sub-forum thingy?

[Lord of Lost Socks]

Depends on if he wants help with a relationship or if this is purely hypothetical.

[Stavroforos]

Christians should only date atheists.

Two devout Christians dating each other gets kinda gross.

[helmersen]

I have no problem dating atheists, so why would you?

[Barry Ferguson]

Meh, my girlfriend is christian and I am atheist. It has no effect apart from me occassionaly mocking her for thinking that her imaginary friend created the world

[helmersen]

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[♖TMB Total War♖]

totally works

[MrMofo]

I honestly don't think it would work. I don't mean fairweather christian, i mean an honest one. Church every week, all friends christian, waiting til marriage, no alcohol consumption, religious slant in school, and so on.

I think at heart there's differences there that are fundamental. Those two worldviews are pretty much incompatible, in terms of the way one reacts to the world, and how one sees the world.

Even politically the lines these days tend to be drawn down that center. And intellectually too (see addendum: Darwinism)

What if it does work out and there's children and they are at complete loggerheads about what to tell their children the world is about?

It's not a 100% hypothetical situation, but does not belong in the relationship forum. This is something i've observed and my bent on it is fairly set. I thought it would make for an interesting topic of discussion. If i did have a problem, i certainly wouldn't turn to the internet for help

[smegma]

I honestly don't think it would work. I don't mean fairweather christian, i mean an honest one. Church every week, all friends christian, waiting til marriage, no alcohol consumption, religious slant in school, and so on.

I think at heart there's differences there that are fundamental. Those two worldviews are pretty much incompatible, in terms of the way one reacts to the world, and how one sees the world.

Even politically the lines these days tend to be drawn down that center. And intellectually too (see addendum: Darwinism)

What if it does work out and there's children and they are at complete loggerheads about what to tell their children the world is about?

It's not a 100% hypothetical situation, but does not belong in the relationship forum. This is something i've observed and my bent on it is fairly set. I thought it would make for an interesting topic of discussion. If i did have a problem, i certainly wouldn't turn to the internet for help

how is it a fabulous connection then? once intoxication of passionate love wears off, you'll realize that you don't want to have a wife quoting scripture and nagging you about when you go drinking with your buddies. trust me, those sorts of "christian" people are best kept at a distance, they live in their own world, often several centuries behind the rest of us.

so yes, i agree with your 2nd post but dont see how you could describe her beliefs and actions as otherwise fabulous in your first...

[MrMofo]

how is it a fabulous connection then? once intoxication of passionate love wears off, you'll realize that you don't want to have a wife quoting scripture and nagging you about when you go drinking with your buddies. trust me, those sorts of "christian" people are best kept at a distance, they live in their own world, often several centuries behind the rest of us.

so yes, i agree with your 2nd post but dont see how you could describe her beliefs and actions as otherwise fabulous in your first...

Yet two people might have the same sense of humor; have a similiar background, economically and culturally; might enjoy the same extracurricular activities; and have similar ways of analyzing the world, though through two different lenses which lead to different conclusions.

Where does the scale tip from *not enough* to *good enough*?

[smegma]

Yet two people might have the same sense of humor; have a similiar background, economically and culturally; might enjoy the same extracurricular activities; and have similar ways of analyzing the world, though through two different lenses which lead to different conclusions.

Where does the scale tip from *not enough* to *good enough*?

i'm gathering that this is actually hypothetical?

the bolded things would not be possible if she really is is a devout christian who doesn't swear, drink, or believe in climate change and you are equally devoted to atheism.

the enlarged text is way off - a devout christian and an athiest have very fundamental differences on their premises, method of inquiry, and normative beliefs regarding the world. you hint at that in the second part of your sentence.

if this isnt hypothetical, then you have to acknowledge that emotions would cloud your vision in this instance.

[MrMofo]

i'm gathering that this is actually hypothetical?

the bolded things would not be possible if she really is is a devout christian who doesn't swear, drink, or believe in climate change and you are equally devoted to atheism.

the enlarged text is way off - a devout christian and an athiest have very fundamental differences on their premises, method of inquiry, and normative beliefs regarding the world. you hint at that in the second part of your sentence.

if this isnt hypothetical, then you have to acknowledge that emotions would cloud your vision in this instance.

That bolded bit might not be as clear as I intended. Lets say they're both Optimistic and happy folk. This goes a long way towards people getting along. Something interesting happens. One says, *God works in mysterious ways,* the other says, *What an awesome coincidence.* They're similar people getting the same input, but through the different lenses of theology and a-theology.

(i've dated a girl before who was christian and every once in a while there'd be something she'd say that i found mind-bogglingly at odds to what i would think and i'd realize in those moments that i'd never ever be able to understand her on a truly fundamental level)

[Copperknickers II]

I honestly don't think it would work. I don't mean fairweather christian, i mean an honest one. Church every week, all friends christian, waiting til marriage, no alcohol consumption, religious slant in school, and so on.

Where in the bible does it say Christians can only have Christian friends and cannot drink alcohol? Jesus drank plenty of alcohol, the Last Supper, Water into Wine, etc. She clearly does not only have Christian friends if shea has an Atheist boyfriend.

I think at heart there's differences there that are fundamental. Those two worldviews are pretty much incompatible, in terms of the way one reacts to the world, and how one sees the world.

Atheism is not a world view. Nihilism is a world view, Humanism is a world view. Not Atheism.

What if it does work out and there's children and they are at complete loggerheads about what to tell their children the world is about?

My parents never told me anything about the world, they let me work it out by myself and answered some of my questions so i could make up my own mind, and i did. I went to church since i was 5 and i was taught about evolution since i was 5, it didn't cause me to collapse and faint when i found out that God didn't exist so its really not much of a problem.

[MrMofo]

Where in the bible does it say Christians can only have Christian friends and cannot drink alcohol? Jesus drank plenty of alcohol, the Last Supper, Water into Wine, etc. She clearly does not only have Christian friends if shea has an Atheist boyfriend.



Atheism is not a world view. Nihilism is a world view, Humanism is a world view. Not Atheism.



My parents never told me anything about the world, they let me work it out by myself and answered some of my questions so i could make up my own mind, and i did. I went to church since i was 5 and i was taught about evolution since i was 5, it didn't cause me to collapse and faint when i found out that God didn't exist so its really not much of a problem.

Actually, yes, you're correct, Atheism is not a worldview per se, but no belief truly exists in a vacuum. Lets say, statistically even, a person who is an atheist is more apt to be a nihilst or a humanist than someone who wasn't. Nobody ever really holds a true dictum of a belief set as written down in a code (and if they do, as if they're following a manual, it's probably a security-blanket belief and won't last). Subsets of beliefs tend to reinforce one another.

I seem to have had a similar experience as you in terms of church. I went since i was old enough to walk, but quit when i was 14, giving it up. My parents sent me but weren't ardent christians themselves, but i could see how if they were more serious about it themselves, how perhaps i could have been influenced by that myself.

Personally, i know that i'd be deadset against sending my children to church. Dead set. It's largely why i think a union of that sort would be largely incompatible. The final straw, if you will.

[Watchman]

I honestly don't think it would work. I don't mean fairweather christian, i mean an honest one. Church every week, all friends christian, waiting til marriage, no alcohol consumption, religious slant in school, and so on.

You know that's not what people would normally call "honest Christian"; it's what most would call "fundie"...

[Dr Zoidberg]

I honestly don't think it would work. I don't mean fairweather christian, i mean an honest one. Church every week, all friends christian, waiting til marriage, no alcohol consumption, religious slant in school, and so on.

We're going down! EJECT! EJECT!

Honestly though, it might be nice at the start - all that hand holding and looking into each others' eyes - but is that enough for you?

[ivan_the_terrible]

I honestly don't think it would work. I don't mean fairweather christian, i mean an honest one. Church every week, all friends christian, waiting til marriage, no alcohol consumption, religious slant in school, and so on.

Which denomination bans alcohol? :S

[Sulfurion Blackfyre]

Me and my first (probably last) girlfriend were both atheists, I was actually the extreme atheist, the kind that goes openly mocking christians and religion in general.

Now I don't even know what happened, but in the course of two weeks I got extremely religious, and not the "church following drone" religious guy, but the "I interpret it my own way, I see it my way, and for me science and religion are the same thing, if you just know how to mix them and not being closed-minded"

But she couldn't bear it, and I couldn't bear her intolerance, and that contributed a lot to deteriorate our (until then) very friendly relationship.

Ah well, everything that starts, has an end right?