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    Default Does the Mulghal Empire ever beat the Marathans

    Have you ever seen those plucky Mulghals beat the mean old Marathans at their own game?

    I know thats how its rigged on purpose but in all my games so far the Marathans win outright in under 30 years, so just curious if it was possible for the Mulghal AI to turn the tide (preferably without direct player intervention)?

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    Default Re: Does the Mulghal Empire ever beat the Marathans

    Never. I've never seen them come close. Not even with trade help from me. Of course if I take the field in the south and the Mughals have the north then it's a different story, but never on their own.

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    For me the Mughals win in 3/10 of my campaigns with or without my interference.

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    Default Re: Does the Mulghal Empire ever beat the Marathans

    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    For me the Mughals win in 3/10 of my campaigns with or without my interference.
    I dont believe that.

    There is no telling how many campaigns Ive played of ETW. Ive played countless games with every faction. Ive never seen the Mughals win against Maratha once. Ive allied with them, traded with them, given them all my techs, I even have the patch of DMUC that handicaps Maratha to slow them down.

    Ive seen the Mughals hold their own for the first 25-50 years or so. But eventually they have always fallen in my campaigns. Im sure its possible for them to win but I highly doubt youve seen it in 3/10 of your campaigns without interference.



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    back them with trade and I assure you they win.

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    Default Re: Does the Mulghal Empire ever beat the Marathans

    I've seen them getting India once, of all the games i played. Most of the time i have to be in a hurry to find a piece of Inia left by the Marathas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okuto View Post
    back them with trade and I assure you they win.
    I just said they didn't

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    Default Re: Does the Mulghal Empire ever beat the Marathans

    Closest I've seen them come was when the Marathas were stupid enough to let Carnatica turn into a rebel province. Mughals lasted until 1730 in that game, as opposed to dying off in 1715
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    They just did in mine, then again Mughals allied with PErsia and ottomans so perhap that had to do with it

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    Default Re: Does the Mulghal Empire ever beat the Marathans

    I've not played a 1.5 campaign yet but certainly in previous versions the Mughals can win in India.

    This is what happened in a Prussian campaign - the Mughals eventually made it to Madrid before they were beaten back by my Prussians. It was quite a campaign - I think the date is 1940 (yes, I am a cautious player)....


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    Default Re: Does the Mulghal Empire ever beat the Marathans

    Quote Originally Posted by Brusilov View Post
    I've not played a 1.5 campaign yet but certainly in previous versions the Mughals can win in India.

    This is what happened in a Prussian campaign - the Mughals eventually made it to Madrid before they were beaten back by my Prussians. It was quite a campaign - I think the date is 1940 (yes, I am a cautious player)....



    Well thanks for answering the question for prior to 1.5 (it can happen), and +1rep for more patience than I will ever have!
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    Default Re: Does the Mulghal Empire ever beat the Marathans

    Quote Originally Posted by Brusilov View Post
    I've not played a 1.5 campaign yet but certainly in previous versions the Mughals can win in India.

    This is what happened in a Prussian campaign - the Mughals eventually made it to Madrid before they were beaten back by my Prussians. It was quite a campaign - I think the date is 1940 (yes, I am a cautious player)....

    Jesus Christ alive lol, that's a long time to be playing a campaign. Looks like it's become quite interesting though. Got any territories in America/India?

    On topic, in my current campaign i just went for the Mughals and the Marathas helped. It's what the nice lady said to do.

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    Default Re: Does the Mulghal Empire ever beat the Marathans

    Quote Originally Posted by masterbaker View Post
    Jesus Christ alive lol, that's a long time to be playing a campaign. Looks like it's become quite interesting though. Got any territories in America/India?

    On topic, in my current campaign i just went for the Mughals and the Marathas helped. It's what the nice lady said to do.
    Holy crap, I'd say you did quite better than the Third Reich at about the same time, huh? lol
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    I've never seen it eithout intervention even with trade and tech handouts MC still wins. I also find Poland often becomes far stronger than it used too and takes down eiter prussia or austria early on. This seems to be a balance issue since the last patch.

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    I played Act 4 in RTI the other day on VH/VH. The Mulghals beat the Marathans back pretty early. Im guessing the reason for this is the starting positions are different in RTI. The Brits have been super aggressive. It seems like every 5 years they declare war on me. Same with Spain.

    I just started another campaign as the Marathans and ever since 1.5 the Brits have been very aggressive. I think its about 1713 and the Brits sent a full stack and fleet and invaded. I killed their army but their huge fleet is sitting outside. Again, they declare war about every 5 years and blockade the out of me. This is the first time I've seen the Brits in India other then RTI Ep:4

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    It happened to me once in 1.3.

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    Default Re: Does the Mulghal Empire ever beat the Marathans

    Yeah I played a British campaign in 1.3 I think the Marathas were conquered by the Mughals. They reemerged and conquered South India until I conquered the north and turned south.
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    Default Re: Does the Mulghal Empire ever beat the Marathans

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Valiant View Post
    Yeah I played a British campaign in 1.3 I think the Marathas were conquered by the Mughals. They reemerged and conquered South India until I conquered the north and turned south.
    I think you will find that if a faction is destroyed in E:TW it can't re-emerge (as they did in M:TW) but they come fact as 'faction' rebels.

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    Default Re: Does the Mulghal Empire ever beat the Marathans

    Quote Originally Posted by Brusilov View Post
    I think you will find that if a faction is destroyed in E:TW it can't re-emerge (as they did in M:TW) but they come fact as 'faction' rebels.
    Actually they can reemerge if their former capital rebels successfully. Please don't BS to try and slack Empire off
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