Do you support Obama's healthcare reform?

[Optimus Marcus Ulpius Traianus]

As a Englishman I have to say I am very interested in what average Americans think of the reforms as I find it odd for there to be some much opposition; Although I suppose in the UK free healthcare is in the UK seen as such a fundamental right. If you want also post your political affiliation.

[Lance-Corporal Jones]

Voted. I'm not American, though, but I do think it would be a step forward for the US.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Voted. I'm not American, though, but I do think it would be a step forward for the US.

@ op,

your results are going to be extremely unreliable because of this. ^^

[Optimus Marcus Ulpius Traianus]

oh yeah non-americans feel free to vote just was most interested on US opinions.

[motiv-8]

I support in principle but am horrified by what's actually come about.

[Jaketh]

nope

[Barry Goldwater]

I support in principle but am horrified by what's actually come about.

This. I am 100% behind reform, but oppose the half-assed kind Obama is going for.

[Necromancer]

I support in principle but am horrified by what's actually come about.

My thoughts exactly. The idea of it is wonderful; every American citizen has access to quality healthcare as a RIGHT and not a PRIVILEGE.

However, I can already see what would happen. When it was announced that women should not have regular mammograms until age 50, I was infuriated, and my father was absolutely livid, I can hardly describe it. His mother died from cancer at 40 when he was only 16, so it hit him especially hard. That was there way of throwing out a bit of a feeler, and it more than confirmed my fears for the healthcare reform.

If this "Public Option" bill passes, your doctor will be chosen for you, and it will be the one who puts in the lowest bit. Chances are, your doctor won't care too much for your health if he/she is making bottom dollar for their work. Doctor's make good money because they have to study long and hard to get their job.

Americans won't be getting the healthcare they need, only what they can afford and what their insurance company is willing to put out. People will be dying in the streets because they couldn't afford vaccinations, their prescriptions, surgeries etc.

From what I can see , nationalized healthcare seems to work in Europe, but with the amount of corruption in American politics, the banks, the insurance companies and so on, it just WON'T work.

I support the idea of it, but with the amount of corruption in this nation, I just can't support it right now...

[Tiberius Tosi]

Well I can't really vote, because I am for parts of it and against other parts. I strongly support ending descrimination against people with pre-existing conditions, and both sides pretty much agree that that is a huge necessity. I would support a public option IF it was run like something like the FDIC, where it is government secured by in all reality kind of it's own company (FYI the FDIC has never had to take government money for insuring banks, proving that some "government" things, although it isn't really government, can indeed work), but since it is not and has be perverted into this giant bio-waste needle shooting baby engulfing monster that is the current healthcare bill, then no I do not support that part.

While I do consider myself a Republican, something indeed must be done. But this healthcare bill is just not it. I am kind of hoping that nothing is passed until after the winter break, that way people have more time to fix some of the ridiculous aspects of it and perhaps get down to earth and take out the they are putting in to appease those democrats who are going "well I would support it if..." So I must refrain from voting.

I must say I would not support a complete government takeover of healthcare and medicine, it would be too inefficient in my opinion.

[Stavroforos]

I am opposed to the health care reform which is coming about because it reeks of mutilation by vested interests to the point of ineptitude.

[The Devil's Sergeant]

Among other things, I oppose because it imposes as a condition of human life the purchasing of a commercial product.

[Aetius]

Among other things, I oppose because it imposes as a condition of human life the purchasing of a commercial product.

Welcome to reality?

Supply and Demand dominates all other concerns. The supply of health care to a world population of 6.6 billion is adequate to meet basic standards (clinic status) if applied evenly.

To provide for cancer, heart disease, diabetes and all this crap we do not so it must be rationed. One way is the government does it, the other way is your pocketbook does it. Yet then again, its not the government, but the government's pocketbook, and by proxy your pocketbook still.

Your choice, or maybe there really is no choice.

[Heinz Guderian]

no it doesnt. actually read it this time

[The Devil's Sergeant]

no it doesnt. actually read it this time

My god are you really that uniformed? The most recent senate version of the bill still has requires americans to buy insurance or face fines, as does the house bill that did pass. Please tell me you don't vote.

[danzig]

As a Englishman I have to say I am very interested in what average Americans think of the reforms as I find it odd for there to be some much opposition; Although I suppose in the UK free healthcare is in the UK seen as such a fundamental right. If you want also post your political affiliation.

First off there is no free healthcare *anywhere*, you are paying for it just indirectly but paying for it nevertheless. No service rendered to you by government police, fire, jails, education or health care is free you ARE paying for it. I want health care reform I dont want what is being passed as health care reform by Democrats/Obama.

[motiv-8]

How is that congruent with the following?
"I oppose because it imposes as a condition of human life the purchasing of a commercial product."

[The Devil's Sergeant]

How is that congruent with the following?
"I oppose because it imposes as a condition of human life the purchasing of a commercial product."

Under this scheme, a person will be a criminal if he does not purchase a private commercial product. That is an unprecedented condition on the promise of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

[Aetius]

Under this scheme, a person will be a criminal if he does not purchase a private commercial product. That is an unprecedented condition on the promise of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Oh...not like car insurance then

[The Devil's Sergeant]

Oh...not like car insurance then

No it is not at all like car insurance, which only a complete and utter fool would believe.

If you don't want to have liability insurance, don't drive a car. If you don't want health insurance, drop dead.

[motiv-8]

Under this scheme, a person will be a criminal if he does not purchase a private commercial product. That is an unprecedented condition on the promise of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

I am struggling to find a concise argument underneath the suffocating hyperbole.