Just ask US
Nothing like using taxpayer dollars to fund the next generation of the Taliban.
More stupidity in the War on Terror.
Too Human
Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
Just ask US
Nothing like using taxpayer dollars to fund the next generation of the Taliban.
More stupidity in the War on Terror.
To be governed is to be watched, inspected, directed, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, and commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, wisdom, nor virtue to do so. To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, taxed, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, admonished, reformed, corrected, and punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted, and robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, abused, disarmed, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, and betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, and dishonored. -Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
And your alternative?
Too Human
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
Are you seriously arguing that we should be in A-stan for 25 years just to make them solvent?Originally Posted by Ferrets54
Such nonsense is beyond even your usual mischief.
Radical Islam is fertilized by our continued presence on their soil and heavy handed diplomacy. Karzai is just looking to line his pockets with more American tax dollars and using American blood and sweat to prop up his ineffectual regime.
To be governed is to be watched, inspected, directed, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, and commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, wisdom, nor virtue to do so. To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, taxed, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, admonished, reformed, corrected, and punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted, and robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, abused, disarmed, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, and betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, and dishonored. -Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
You didn't attempt to answer my question.
Too Human
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
I figured it was your usual rhetorical rant. Was there a real question posed?
To be governed is to be watched, inspected, directed, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, and commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, wisdom, nor virtue to do so. To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, taxed, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, admonished, reformed, corrected, and punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted, and robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, abused, disarmed, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, and betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, and dishonored. -Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
Yes. What is your alternative to funding and building the Afghan Army until the Afghan Government can defend itself?
Dux Limitis
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
Correct, especcially regarding Karzai.
Miss me yet?
Civitate
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
To withdraw leave the country alone to be overtaken by the Taliban again because they arent really a threat to anyone atleast according to his other thread.
Too Human
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
It's not my thread. Funny that you can spit on Pakistan for "not having the reach," but a few thousand desperate militants hiding in the hills are a real threat to security.
To be governed is to be watched, inspected, directed, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, and commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, wisdom, nor virtue to do so. To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, taxed, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, admonished, reformed, corrected, and punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted, and robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, abused, disarmed, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, and betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, and dishonored. -Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
Civitate
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
A gun is a dangerous thing, I can shoot you from distances killing you, I can buy a silencer and no one will know, I can buy night vision so I can do it in the dark. A knife is a dangerous thing, I can sneak up behind you and stab you in the back, I can bump into you and stab you in the heart. These things are similar in what they can do (kill someone) but different in how they can do it (BOOM everyone vaporized vs ALLAH ACKBAR *push the button* KABOOOM) but both are deadly.
Dux Limitis
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
Is it that they can't afford their own military or that they don't want to pay for it.
Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.
Dux Limitis
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
There's one actually.
To cut the crap, let themthemselfs.
Miss me yet?
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
Yeah. What's the worst that could happen?There's one actually.
To cut the crap, let them
I suppose Islamic fundamentalists could gain power and then provide resources and shelter for terrorists to launch attacks on New York.
But that could never happen.
Dux Limitis
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
Prehaps, not too sure...
Airstrikes would be cheaper ofcourse.
But I must admit that I awnser with my own country in mind, not the USA.
Miss me yet?
Saviors of the Japanese
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
Because there Afghan Muslims they are going to be Taliban?
Better not give money to Southern Baptists because they are the next generation of Klansmen.
“The nation that will insist upon drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking by cowards.”
—Sir William Francis Butler
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Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
I'm not sure how you expect the ANA to eventually be responsible for security without money.
Dux Limitis
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
How is this a surprise or a scandal? Afghanistan is a recovering peripheral warzone, still parts of it occupied or in conflict by/with the Taliban and it has always been one of the poorest and most underdeveloped countries of the world. Money to fund the ANA and ANP isn't simply going to fall out of the air. Considering that and that both are the biggest and most vital players on the NATO/ISAF side, it's hardly unreasonable or stupid to fund them for the time being.
Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
Saviors of the Japanese
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
I seem to remember Nietzsche supporting the war while Bush was president...
Hmm...
“The nation that will insist upon drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking by cowards.”
—Sir William Francis Butler
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
Ah, but isn't that just the crux of so many of our valued contributors?
Saviors of the Japanese
Re: Tired, poor, can't afford your own Army? No problem.
All too true.
People can't look at the issues really.
Its X bad, everything x do bad. Y good, everything y do good.
“The nation that will insist upon drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking by cowards.”
—Sir William Francis Butler
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