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    Misha97's Avatar Libertus
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    Icon4 Unfair game.

    I find that somehow I always have gold and yet I build units every single turn, only to find them beaten down by hordes of enemies. I have noticed that all NPC nations act like rebels. They have NO gold and have random stacks of units spawning in the middle of no where. This should be changed!

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    Default Re: Unfair game.

    turn down difficulty?

    campaign AI cant be tweaked (not enough)

    so they cheat them to increase difficulty ^_^


    (also to make baddies more realistic, bcs mordor by itself would be weaker than gondor's if controlled by player)

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    Default Re: Unfair game.

    This is to compensate for the stupidity of the AI.
    In Vanilla TATW the AI will only get, quoting KK, money from scripts and several starting armies to help them conquer rebels. In addition to this whenever the AI loses a major settlement a script similar to the Garrison Script kicks in and spawns one or two armies for the AI to help them regain that settlement.
    Because the AI has large amounts of money they will make many armies. They do not spend this money on buildings however so they often cannot make high tier units until very late in the game.


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    Default Re: Unfair game.

    Those "unfair" scripts are there to cancel your unfair advantages out.

    However, if you want it easier; In the faq theres an guide how to delete those scripts.




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    Default Re: Unfair game.

    He he... I share your feeling, I hate free full stacks spawning out of no where. I wish there were other ways of helping the AI, that were consistent with game "rules". That they strengthened the AI for the right reasons, I mean. For instance that you are in the vicinity of a city that can produce three units, you should be able to count on no more than three units appearing there.

    That much said, when I turned off the scripts the game became kind of boring. So I continue to play with them, although I'm still frustrated when I see endless streams of full enemy stacks...

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    Icon11 Re: Unfair game.

    apparently you didnt read the part that said "play in VH/VH or else the game is too easy"
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    What the hell is wrong with you people?

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    VH/VH is probably the worst possible setting for difficulty, mainly because the AI gets about 3x the stats of your troops.

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    Default Re: Unfair game.

    lol, you must be playing with gondor. against mordor it is very difficult with the garrison scripts. you can always delete the script in theFAQ

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    The game isn't unfair you need to use terrain, settlements, and artillery to your advantage when selecting where to fight.

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    There is no unfaire when you are human and the enemy is Stupid Computer's AI
    If you can't beat a mere machine with VH/VH , how can you play a TW game online with other human player ?
    Just cheat to make your game more fair , chicken

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    Default Re: Unfair game.

    There is no unfaire when you are human and the enemy is Stupid Computer's AI
    If you can't beat a mere machine with VH/VH , how can you play a TW game online with other human player ?
    Just cheat to make your game more fair , chicken
    i am certain that modders have been able to improve the AI slightly enough
    regardless, having the AI cheat is the easy way to get things done and im confident it will be erased with the miracle work of Lusted since i have appreciated his AI and that it offers a challenge.
    also coming off as a douchebag on your 4th post wont help you much.

    The game isn't unfair you need to use terrain, settlements, and artillery to your advantage when selecting where to fight.
    so basically camp?

    having the AI cheat is really....the easy way to fix things? i dont mean to offend, but the game has been out for years now and some sort of breakthrough had to occur right? anyone being ambitious at all?


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    Default Re: Unfair game.

    Sure, it's annoying when you just defeat the garrison of Caras Galadhon (Scripted one, too, methinks?), and a full stack of high level Sindar soldiers appears out of nowhere the next turn to kill your extremely weakened, Troll-less, crappy Orc army and retake the city...

    But you can deal with it. Akhorahil did. He just shrugged it off, and said this before he died alone and surrounded, "K, guys. Lame, but K. I'm just gonna come back later. With more Nazgul and Trolls. LULZ."

    I mean, the AI deals with you having the unfair advantage of conscious thought and creative intelligence, and you don't hear it complaining this much.

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    or you can do what i did with the DLV teutonic script (with lithuanian mod) and edit it to more realistic standards....then again i dont know what the standard would be for LoTR


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    Default Re: Unfair game.

    Change the VH/VH to H/H and the game turns from endless battles on same place and rutine to a enjoyable LOTR environment game, atleast for me. With Very Hard i found myself fighting same battles all over again within tens of turns with endless enemy stacks on route constantly. If you ask me its not fun nor realistic.
    Turning down difficulty doesnt show that you cant do it on Very Hard, it just shows you like a touch of fun (ofc everyone have a different opinion about fun) in a game you play.

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    Guess what, the AI hates your intelligence as well

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    Default Re: Unfair game.

    Quote Originally Posted by IHV View Post
    Change the VH/VH to H/H and the game turns from endless battles on same place and rutine to a enjoyable LOTR environment game, atleast for me. With Very Hard i found myself fighting same battles all over again within tens of turns with endless enemy stacks on route constantly. If you ask me its not fun nor realistic.
    Turning down difficulty doesnt show that you cant do it on Very Hard, it just shows you like a touch of fun (ofc everyone have a different opinion about fun) in a game you play.
    I would have also prefered fewer, but harder battles.
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    Default Re: Unfair game.

    What would be awesome is instead of the AI sending one easily managable stack every turn, waiting and building up 5 or 6 stacks, and sending them in all at once. Makes it far harder for the player!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chyeaaaa111 View Post
    What would be awesome is instead of the AI sending one easily managable stack every turn, waiting and building up 5 or 6 stacks, and sending them in all at once. Makes it far harder for the player!
    ages ago i spent several consecutive turns fighting 8 full stacks one after the other which was very annoying....so i am totally in favor of your idea cause fighting them all at once would make things quicker....cause so far the AI wins on default against me since i get so bored fighting 8 consecutive armies that i quit.....thats their plan ...bore me to death with redundancy


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutonic Joe View Post
    ages ago i spent several consecutive turns fighting 8 full stacks one after the other which was very annoying....so i am totally in favor of your idea cause fighting them all at once would make things quicker....cause so far the AI wins on default against me since i get so bored fighting 8 consecutive armies that i quit.....thats their plan ...bore me to death with redundancy
    that is their tactic

    boring an commander to death

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    Default Re: Unfair game.

    Sauron's strategy was to force Gondor's troops to put on their armour several times a day by faking an attack until everyone got sick of it and said "Just have the stinking city, we're going to stay with Rohan".

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