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    can rohan build them???

    i think they shudl.. since rohan-affiliated armies are the only ones to have used ents...

    and if they can.. is it really late game.. cuz i stil hvent been able to recruit..

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    Elves only, from Fangorn as mercenaries.

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    or custom battle with forest-elbs

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    You can hire them in Fangorn territory if you aren't Silvan Elven
    Its easy to make war with others, its never been easy when we need a peace.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Altimis View Post
    You can hire them in Fangorn territory if you aren't Silvan Elven
    You can hire them in Fangorn territory if you are Silvan Elven

    Elves only, from Fangorn as mercenaries.
    - Right, after the event video they are "unlocked"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterBigAb View Post
    You can hire them in Fangorn territory if you are Silvan Elven


    - Right, after the event video they are "unlocked"
    why does that make anysense, i mean Rohan allied with them...even thats not rue i guess, they really acted on their own i guess, they should just be all around mercs then
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    No they should not be mercs. They would for because they've done so in the First Age, because they have a long friendship and because they love the trees like they do. Not to mention that they actually helped to defend Lorien from the orcs.
    And they did not ally with Rohan. They helped them because Gandalf asked Treebeard to do so and because they hate orcs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seleukos_I. View Post
    No they should not be mercs. They would for because they've done so in the First Age, because they have a long friendship and because they love the trees like they do. Not to mention that they actually helped to defend Lorien from the orcs.
    And they did not ally with Rohan. They helped them because Gandalf asked Treebeard to do so and because they hate orcs.
    Precisely! I think that they should not be mercs at all. If we actually make them a faction in the way they describe, they can start with outstanding/perfect relations with Sindar Elves, so that if the Sindar Elves approach them diplomatically, they would then more easily become allies.


    Quote Originally Posted by HarneY View Post
    If rohan had been cutting down there forest then they might have been slightly more gentle at their approach maybe more diplomatic but probably woulda pwned em like isengard
    No, the response would be identical! They don't care about who's cutting their forest, they care only about the fact that their forest is being cut and they would attack anyone who would do that! In the game, this is equivalent to another faction having Fangorn forest.
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    you can also recruit them as high elves, if no one else has said that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sipahizade View Post
    can rohan build them???

    i think they shudl.. since rohan-affiliated armies are the only ones to have used ents...
    No, they didn't.
    And for Rohan, Galadriel is a witch, and ents are almost trolls.
    Last edited by Vifarc; December 10, 2009 at 08:57 AM.

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    Whats their spawn time?
    If i hire 1 unit how long til the next is ready to hire?

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    err.. about 30 turns... so don't just throw them away in battle!

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    On a small side note, any general holding Fangorn can get an ancillary called "Ent drought", which I thought was pretty damn cool Got it on my Gondor general who was commanding a mere 3 units after he took Fangorn from Isengard, sent him reinforcements later and reclaimed Isengard for Gondor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverock View Post
    err.. about 30 turns... so don't just throw them away in battle!
    That's bloody hard to do anyway.

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    It's very easy to do, let them in range of ballistas or Javelin throwers and they are gone..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shocked View Post
    It's very easy to do, let them in range of ballistas or Javelin throwers and they are gone..
    I would add fire arrows so be careful guys.

    Anyway, they're still very powerful, even more than Trolls & they can win you a critical battle. Considering the lack of shock units on the Silvan roster that's very useful when facing armored baddies & other big units.
    They're very good at trampling Nazguls & BN knights, for example or kicking Troll butts.

    As for the "Ent Drougth" ancillary Yeah, pretty cool. I had it with Haldir.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Pacha View Post
    I would add fire arrows so be careful guys.
    I wonder ..., is it possible to make certain units more prone to damage from fire arrows? (apart from armour and HP in general, like a trait/script or something) It would make it more realistic for Ents to have this...

    I do not think Ents should be recruitable for Rohan, because I can't see Ents living in castles and Cities. Leave them to their foresty Elven regions - better realism.

    Evan

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    Actually Rohan can't and should not hire Ents. Only Elves can.
    Quote Originally Posted by olekelo View Post
    Whats their spawn time?
    If i hire 1 unit how long til the next is ready to hire?
    Every 33 turns I think.
    Last edited by Seleukos_I.; December 19, 2009 at 09:46 AM.

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    Well, here's what. Ents could spawn as a faction (a very limited and unplayable one) after Fangorn forest is captured by any faction. The diplomatic situation of the Ents faction would be "enemies" with the faction that captured Fangorn and neutral towards anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael X View Post
    Well, here's what. Ents could spawn as a faction (a very limited and unplayable one) after Fangorn forest is captured by any faction. The diplomatic situation of the Ents faction would be "enemies" with the faction that captured Fangorn and neutral towards anyone else.

    "I am on no-one's side, because no-one is on my side."
    Nice idea!

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