Why is popuation completely independent of recruitment?

[Snake_Tornado]

I don't get it. You could conceiveably have a city that's in a tug of war between two factions, losing population steadily from continuous sacking or extermination, and yet you can still recruit huge armies of men/orcs/whatever from it just because it's got the right culture rankings?

I mean, yes, population still dictates settlement growth.... but that's all it does now! Once you've got your cities fully upgraded, there's almost no purpose to maintaining high populations except maybe a smidgeon of extra taxes

You can't even ship low-tier units to new settlements to disband for a population boost anymore.. it makes no sense. It's as if soldiers and civilians live on two separate planes of existence >__>

[Jean=A=Luc]

It's because the "recruitment population cost" mechanic didn't survive the transition from RTW to M2:TW.

[Snake_Tornado]

It's because the "recruitment population cost" mechanic didn't survive the transition from RTW to M2:TW.

Wow, really? The original game didn't have that either? (and yes, I got M2TW largely just to play this mod. shhhhh)

[Jean=A=Luc]

Wow, really? The original game didn't have that either?

No, RTW was last to have it though I can't say I ever noticed it much. It did offer some interesting options though.

(and yes, I got M2TW largely just to play this mod. shhhhh)

That's pretty obvious. I suspect many people did the same.

[Chyeaaaa111]

Wow, really? The original game didn't have that either? (and yes, I got M2TW largely just to play this mod. shhhhh)

Too bad CA doesn't realize how much better their sales would be if they released mod tools

[Myshkin]

Hmmmmm... Should I give it a try to get it back working?

Well now I am rethinking it... All orc cities will end up with 0 pop. Maybe not!

[Pellekrino]

well, just need to considerably increase pop growth of orcs cities.
I did like much this mechanism with RTW. it forced you not to engage too much of troops at early stage or your cities couldn't grow fast. Resulting you had to get big success with battles if you wanted to expand.
And of course, you could move population through engaging peasent and disbanding them in the right area. I did this with M2TW, noticing too late this had no effect :p

[toluas]

And of course, you could move population through engaging peasent and disbanding them in the right area. I did this with M2TW, noticing too late this had no effect :p

Presumably that is the reason why this mechanic did not make it from RTW to M2TW...

[Il Ducce]

I just assume that troops in small towns are drawn from the countryside, rather than from the city itself.

[Tropical Bob]

I just assume that the remaining peasants work harder to make up for the slack of my new cannon fodder soldiers.

[Pellekrino]

then why couldn't we keep this mechanism and suppress the fact that disbanding a unit increase pop. it'd work only in one way, but that d be good enough

[Outlawstar15a2]

then why couldn't we keep this mechanism and suppress the fact that disbanding a unit increase pop. it'd work only in one way, but that d be good enough

Because when RTW was out there were alot of nubs who complained that it made the game too hard. I weasn't a big fan of it either but I only slightly disliked it because it made rushing and steamrolling that much harder till I learned a trick I stumbled on then I found it made it even FASTER!! So I began to like it but it's just like real life the idiots, because they make up 95% of the population, will always have their way while the intellectuals will always get snuffed because their only 5% of the population. That's what happened here.