Why no info about BAI for NTW or If BAI can be "reverse engineered" for ETW?

Hi all,

Perhaps most of you feel as I do regarding the release of NTW:

HOW will the BAI actually be?

I personally want CA to still make good the "reintegration" issue of NTW's BAI with ETW's BAI.

It's December and still no word regarding that at all......... Same old Same old?

CA, hard working people paid hard cash for an unfinished game: WRONG
Fix you mistakes!
hellas1

The problem is, will NTW`s BAI actually be any better than ETW`s BAI? And if so, by any decent margin worth our while?

Personally, I don`t believe CA have any intention at all to reverse-engineer NTW`s BAI even if it is better.

Wot, BAI, who ned that? You is getting pretty soldjaz wid betta units and better gfx n stuf for yu money n dis xpansion.

There is info about whether or not NTW's BAI will be reverse-engineered to ETW's or not. It won't.

I have no problem with you questioning CA, but I do think it's inappropriate for you to post multiple threads talking about the same thing.

No one outside of CA can say for sure what how good the BAI in Napoleon will be but there are some obvious clues that were offered in developer Mike Simpson's 1/10 blog post http://blogs.sega.com/totalwar/2009/11/10/battle-ai-by-mike-simpson/. Simpson wrote:

"Progress is frustratingly slow...battle AI is not rocket science - its way, way harder than that."

I think he's trying to tell us not to expect much BAI improvement in Napoleon.

"In the updates so far we’ve got rid of some of the worst behaviours that are close to the surface, and have started to tackle deeper issues like unstable decision loops that cause the AI to mill around rather than hold its line and fire. We’re also starting to add new behaviours, for example taking better advantage of hilly terrain. These improvements take the code further than we’ve been able before and will be there for Napoleon."

This suggests very limited improvements, such as NTW's BAI may seek high ground. However, other things he talks about, i.e. the milling around bit was mostly solved by Darth in his Empire mod IMO.

"Our overall aim with the improvements is first to get rid of any erratic behaviour, second to improve general performance to the point where the obvious handicaps can be removed, and then to add a greater variety of ’smart’ behaviours...it’s a process of continual improvement, and each game will get AI better than the last one. Including Napoleon."

To paraphrase, the goal for NTW is removing obvious bugs, not something dramatically better.

"If you’re a genius C++ programmer, you understand exactly how difficult this problem is, but still think it’s the most interesting code problem in the world, apply for a job. We’ll find space for you."

This definitely surprised me, i.e. how he transformed BAI discussion into a plea for programmers to apply for jobs at CA! I may be reading too much desperation into this however.

Originally Posted by Huberto

"If you’re a genius C++ programmer, you understand exactly how difficult this problem is, but still think it’s the most interesting code problem in the world, apply for a job. We’ll find space for you."

This definitely surprised me, i.e. how he transformed BAI discussin into a plea for programmers to apply for jobs at CA! I may be reading too much desperation into this however.

If you check CA`s vacancy page you`ll see they`re advertising for AI programmers, so you`re probably not far from the truth...

Hi all,

I have been warned against multiple threads about the same thing.

Soooooooooo

Moderators please close this thread!
hellas1

Closed at Op's request