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    Default Multiplayer full of cheats, lamers, babies and immature losers!!!

    I am losing faith in the multiplayer aspect of this fantastic game. The only decent multiplayer games I seem to get are against friends who play by the rules and who do not leave a game if they are losing.

    Too many times now I have had idiots leaving when things have not been going their way. In a recent 2v2 I had lost my ally pretty quick since the other 2 ganged up on him. This gave me time to position my forces to best effect and when things looked like I was going to cream 2 armies combined against me the game came to an end when one decided to bail like a big baby who couldn't bare losing.

    Not good.
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    Default Re: Multiplayer full of cheats, lamers, babies and immature losers!!!

    Majority of people in the MP world are just there to win, not have fun..I personally play for fun and a good battle, ya win some ya lose some, doing anything to win just ruins the game its not like your getting 1 billion for that game your playing ya know.

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    Multiplayer online gaming is

    "...a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway; where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs."

    (with apologies to Hunter S Thompson RIP).

    In other words, you gotta be in the mood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarybandit View Post
    Multiplayer online gaming is

    "...a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway; where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs."

    (with apologies to Hunter S Thompson RIP).

    In other words, you gotta be in the mood.
    Sounds about right

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    I play multiplayer exclusively and don't really have too much problem. I dislike some players tactics, but that doesn't seem to be an issue in this thread.

    What I don't really understand is when people want others to "stay till the end". Why? What benefit is there to stay in a game another 15 minutes when the end is very clear? Even in chess there is no requirement to "stay till the end", they concede defeat when they see their position is hopeless. Perhaps what people expect is to be able to see the final tally screen or save the replay, but to ask someone to continue to play the game that they've given up on is frankly rude IMO. Why should they sit there while you mop up the last remnants of their army, that is simply gloating on your victory.

    If all you want is the final tally or to save the replay, that is not the other players fault, that is the developers problem. They should make the game function in that fashion and you should not have to force another human to pleasure you by wasting 15-30 minutes of his life. If the game is over, then it's over when he gives up and not when you're done having fun with him.

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    Default Re: Multiplayer full of cheats, lamers, babies and immature losers!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by scarybandit View Post
    Multiplayer online gaming is

    "...a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway; where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs."

    (with apologies to Hunter S Thompson RIP).

    In other words, you gotta be in the mood.
    I been playing TW MP for 5 1/2 years, almost 6. Perhaps you just can't handle the heat?

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    I agree, MP is 99% not worth it in ETW.
    Let me persuade you with my powerful logic skills.

    In light of the Total War series, a quote from the theologian whom I respect the most:

    The Heavenly City outshines Rome, beyond comparison. There, instead of victory, is truth; instead of high rank, holiness.
    St. Augustine, Bishop of Hippo

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    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...On-Multiplayer

    This article pretty much states it. Warning though about foul language.

    It's why I like games like ETW, I just can't stand multiplayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...On-Multiplayer

    This article pretty much states it. Warning though about foul language.

    It's why I like games like ETW, I just can't stand multiplayer.
    Zero Punctuation is actually quite a reliable source for honest game reviews, if you can get through all of his random tangents.

    If you watch a number of his reviews, he points out a lot of the characteristics of Total War gamers. Not all of them are friendly, but by god all of them are true.

    And as for the OP. No, I wouldn't know how bad the multiplayer for this game is, since after the 1.3 patch, I have either not been allowed to join an MP game, or I join one and get booted automatically for having ridiculously high lag. I know that the lag is not coming from my connection, since I can play games like TF2 and Counter Strike with a decent Ping most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcsquad12 View Post
    Zero Punctuation is actually quite a reliable source for honest game reviews, if you can get through all of his random tangents.

    If you watch a number of his reviews, he points out a lot of the characteristics of Total War gamers. Not all of them are friendly, but by god all of them are true.
    Well it's because he focuses on the bad parts of the game. To quote, "You don't need me to repeat all the good things the other reviewers already said....you don't call a sewerman to redecorate your bathroom"

    He loved Batman: Arkham Asylum but went ahead and trashed the game (going to the point of bashing it's boxart as the worst a game ever had).

    But his point stands on the MP. It's unfortunate but hey, it's the internet, no one knows who you are. Why people get off by going jackasses during a gaming session I don't know nor do I want to know why.

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    I play till the end. I usually win but if I loose I loose. I had so many people escape last second before they would loose. I don't understand why. lost so many point but I dont care. I play for fun and to win. But loosing is also part of the game.

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    Default Re: Multiplayer full of cheats, lamers, babies and immature losers!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Nicholas Altman View Post
    I play till the end. I usually win but if I loose I loose. I had so many people escape last second before they would loose. I don't understand why. lost so many point but I dont care. I play for fun and to win. But loosing is also part of the game.
    I totally agree, everybody hates it when people leave prematurely if the battle's ranked or not.

    + rep for not leaving prematurely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Nicholas Altman View Post
    I play till the end. I usually win but if I loose I loose. I had so many people escape last second before they would loose. I don't understand why. lost so many point but I dont care. I play for fun and to win. But loosing is also part of the game.
    Exactly!!

    I play to the end, win lose or draw. I play for fun and no one enjoys losing but it also makes winning all the sweeter. If my tactics work then I feel vindicated and if they don't work then its back to the drawing board. Sometimes it all depends on the army structure chosen by you and your opponent.

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    Default Re: Multiplayer full of cheats, lamers, babies and immature losers!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Nicholas Altman View Post
    I play till the end. I usually win but if I loose I loose. I had so many people escape last second before they would loose. I don't understand why. lost so many point but I dont care. I play for fun and to win. But loosing is also part of the game.
    Well, I usually lose but still play to the end, except the (many) times when the ETW system kicks me out of game

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    1.) Ranking system is only crap and nonsens!
    Is there any international ranking list given where everyone can see where he stands with hie points and stars? No! So what about that at least?
    Does it really means, that a guy with "xyz" many stars is good? Lol ....
    What is the dammed reason of about winning a ranking game clear against someone and getting 45 points for it, but if loosing the rematch close and loosing 2.300 points!
    Why are crashed ranking games rated for points at all? I played my last known ranking in end of march and will never do it by knowing it again! The point where I quitted ranking forever was a 4v4 navalbattle where the game crashed during uploading because some crashed. This single crash was rated as acrushing defeat and I lost over 5.000 points to it. So thank you very much for this "peep" named ranking games!

    2.) No possibility to admitt defeat!
    Why the hell was this function deleted? Where is th e reason to fight wit the last men up to the end with no chance to win?
    Sure, there are of course "quitters" which can't loose, but many people have not the patience to wait until the last unit flees and leave the game because no admitt unction!

    This missing feature was named as needing for the MP from the release on!!!

    3.) Kids, insulters and "deaf-and dump people"!
    In every MP game you will find these people and they are not worth to take serious. Some life frustrated kids of 14 which play the *peep* in the MP because anonym and other idiots will be ever founded in an MP game.

    For me I'm in some parts happy about the missing open Lobby as in RTW. Taking a look on the *bullpeep* written in this Lobby, there must be many people having a boring life! Talking over hours and if plaing at all only a single game, then will be talked about it over hours again...

    Finally I will say that it is a game to have fun and the MP is the possibility to have common fun with others. So many people take it a) to serious and b) as a possibility to play the .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandelus View Post
    Some life frustrated kids of 14 which play the *peep* in the MP because anonym and other idiots will be ever founded in an MP game.
    i hope u dont speak for all 14 year olds!

    If CA were to implement a surrender button, at least 1/2 of quits would cease to exist

    mainly because a lot of them would be casual gamers who couldnt b bothered waiting for the end as mentioned, and dont care about replays, stats, ranking etc., so they quit.

    there still remains the problem of the "my ranking is 8 stars! im gonna commit suicide if it ever gets lower! im losing! quit! quit! quit! phew"


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAussieDigger View Post
    i hope u dont speak for all 14 year olds!

    If CA were to implement a surrender button, at least 1/2 of quits would cease to exist

    mainly because a lot of them would be casual gamers who couldnt b bothered waiting for the end as mentioned, and dont care about replays, stats, ranking etc., so they quit.

    there still remains the problem of the "my ranking is 8 stars! im gonna commit suicide if it ever gets lower! im losing! quit! quit! quit! phew"
    In 1v1s at least, if a player quits properly (meaning he hits ESC then 'Quit Battle') the battle will end immediately with the player who quit automatically declared the loser and both sides allowed to save replays and view stats if they so desire. So there technically is a 'surrender button' even though it isn't exactly named that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horzah View Post
    I am losing faith in the multiplayer aspect of this fantastic game. The only decent multiplayer games I seem to get are against friends who play by the rules and who do not leave a game if they are losing.
    Really? That doesn't match my experience really. I do get the occasional quitter, but I must say it's not too often.

    Too many times now I have had idiots leaving when things have not been going their way. In a recent 2v2 I had lost my ally pretty quick
    Yeah having your ally leaving sucks most of all; it's why I hardly ever play pub 2v2s... ranked, never.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Nicholas Altman View Post
    I play till the end. I usually win but if I loose I loose. I had so many people escape last second before they would loose. I don't understand why.
    I also never quit.
    I did learn to not be angry about my opponents quitting, it is wasting their time (and yours) watching the mopping up of the last two units. I have to blame CA that you can't save replays and look at the statistics if your opponent quits because that is my largest problem with it (matter of fact, I posted this as a bug report in the support forum).

    lost so many point but I dont care. I play for fun and to win. But loosing is also part of the game.
    You don't lose points in ranked if you opponent quits though, happened to me this weekend and I got the points for winning... I'm pretty sure that if he disconnect, you don't earn points, but you don't lose any either. You do lose points if you alt-f4 in a ranked game, I accidentally pressed that once during setup instead of alt-4 (damn you, laptop keyboard!!!).
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    i havent played MP much with the total war games but i have played MP in other games such as a few of the paradox titles. the issues u state dont just apply to total war, they apply to most online MP games.

    if your gonna play against random players theres a very good chance your gonna come up against either some random bozo or some 10 year old kid will almost always do just what u stated.

    i find the best opponents u will find are through organised game threads or clans. thats where the best MP opponents are to be found. i defo wont be playin the new MP campaign against "randoms" i find in some chat room.

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    Hi there.
    The OP's experiences in MP pretty much looks like those of mine. And in the end, they where the reason I gave up MP only 14 days (apox) after having played my first MP battle. Sad but true...
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