Will NTW units still integrate with ETW grand campaign?

The whole point of total war games has been for me and most people I know to enjoy the grand campaign.
Any expansions that included small campaigns that were standalone on a small map have been played once and never touched again.

If NTW is to have better graphics, more units, AI, lines of supply (something people have wanted for a long time incidentally) and other good features I would want the units, AI and supply lines for the main game of ETW. An extended campaign would be natural and well worth the purchase.

Napoleonic addon should not be treated as a minor side addon. It should be the chance for napoleon to conquer the world much like caesar did. It should be the missing link for empire and a chance to improve the main game, which would in turn improve sales of both.
Essentially NOT integrating the units and AI at least into ETW grand campaign will stagnate and divide the series.

Believe me this is no Barbarian Invasion or Kingdoms. We need to at least know that units will be portable or unlockable by modders like mtw2 kingdoms was for the grand campaign.

Listen to your fans.... this small internet voice is what affects the masses of single player gamers. Research this and know its true. If I do not like NTW and what it does I have many non internet, not tech saavy friends who will trust my judgement and steer clear of it as a scripted linear small time addon.

The question is will people who buy NTW be able to integrate ntw features into ETW grand campaign. Even if it is to the exclusion of stand alone ETW players.... which I do not mind.

NTW will no longer be able to integrate with ETW in any way.

Sucks doesn't it?

Originally Posted by arcsquad12

NTW will no longer be able to integrate with ETW in any way.

Sucks doesn't it?

Wow thats such BS

Originally Posted by arcsquad12

NTW will no longer be able to integrate with ETW in any way.

Sucks doesn't it?

this is one of those instances when i can honestly say i wasn't surprised. at all. typical ca.

Well, Mastery of Europe is NTW's version of the Grand Campaign...so you'll have to make do with that.

Since as far as we know none of NTW will retrofit unto ETW, you won't be able to go to America or India in NTW at all. At least the # of regions in Europe has been significantly expanded...

Originally Posted by hitokiri2486

Well, Mastery of Europe is NTW's version of the Grand Campaign...so you'll have to make do with that.

Since as far as we know none of NTW will retrofit unto ETW, you won't be able to go to America or India in NTW at all. At least the # of regions in Europe has been significantly expanded...

It isn't 100% confirmed whether or not N:TW will include America and India, though I believe they will include them for the sake of recreating Arthur Wellesley's battles in India and the War of 1812.

I'm beginning to feel rather upset though that N:TW can't be integrated. I wanted to play through events such as the American Revolution or the Seven Years' War, not just the Napoleonic Wars. If N:TW is easily modded, though, I'm sure we'll get some early/mid-1700s mods.

Originally Posted by RuleBritannia

It isn't 100% confirmed whether or not N:TW will include America and India, though I believe they will include them for the sake of recreating Arthur Wellesley's battles in India and the War of 1812.

I'm beginning to feel rather upset though that N:TW can't be integrated. I wanted to play through events such as the American Revolution or the Seven Years' War, not just the Napoleonic Wars. If N:TW is easily modded, though, I'm sure we'll get some early/mid-1700s mods.

Yes the War of 1812 as an add-on like warpath for ETW would be good as you select either side UK or United States!!

I think it is well that ther eis a limit to how far the campaign map extends,for a more centralized experience should do wonders for keeping the AI on target,for i cant help but feel the multiple theatres was not a good thing off the start for the rather lackluster AI,things are better now but the initial case remains.this may well be the idea they had as well when the decided to make it a slightly smaller experience

who actually thinks CA will get more detail and better AI from a smaller map better think again. All it means is they have had less time and less effort.
These are not cruel judgements just based on a long history of dissappointments.

Multiplayer campaign in ETW will fix most of them for me I hope. A mod to ETW for napoleonic times should finish it off.

Originally Posted by Destraex

If NTW is to have better graphics, more units, AI, lines of supply (something people have wanted for a long time incidentally) and other good features I would want the units, AI and supply lines for the main game of ETW. An extended campaign would be natural and well worth the purchase.

To me, ETW was a minor game compare to NTW, anyway, NTW has nothing to do with ETW, its a standalone game, the only thing they have in common is that it uses at its core, ETW's engine, but everything else is new. I think NTW will be bigger and better then ETW in every way, and that ETW should be more considered as the expansion for NTW, since it is not as good. Anyway, I hated the India and American theatres. I prefer just Europe! (From a Napoleonic lovers point of view)

Originally Posted by Marshal Beale

To me, ETW was a minor game compare to NTW, anyway, NTW has nothing to do with ETW, its a standalone game, the only thing they have in common is that it uses at its core, ETW's engine, but everything else is new. I think NTW will be bigger and better then ETW in every way, and that ETW should be more considered as the expansion for NTW, since it is not as good. Anyway, I hated the India and American theatres. I prefer just Europe! (From a Napoleonic lovers point of view)

To me Napoleonic was only the ending chapter in the musket era. It was a very very good ending but did not overshadow the earlier conflicts. I'd like to see pike and musket as a prefix and NTW as a suffix end to end integrated into one grand campaign. That would make life complete with a coop campaign. And finally the variety we need in the game.

whats the point of collecting all this content if we have to ditch it all the time!

Originally Posted by Destraex

To me Napoleonic was only the ending chapter in the musket era. It was a very very good ending but did not overshadow the earlier conflicts. I'd like to see pike and musket as a prefix and NTW as a suffix end to end integrated into one grand campaign. That would make life complete with a coop campaign. And finally the variety we need in the game.

whats the point of collecting all this content if we have to ditch it all the time!

I can't agree more. That's one of the biggest reasons I am angry about NTW being a "separate" game. I like that progression through the era culminating in the Napoleonic wars which were the height of the era. Previous wars are related to them. The Seven Years war's influenced the American revolution which influenced the French Revolution which brought upon the Napoleonic wars. I want to have a game wherein I can play that.

It would be like separating RTW into a Roman Republic era and a Roman Empire era games which did not integrate.

Wait, what?! when did this happen?! WTF?!

No Grand Campaign? Well....oh well. Enjoy your N:TW. I'm not buying it. I never play the scenarios or the small campaigns. I play the Grand Campaign. Without that, this game is pointless to me.

I was REALLY excited for the integration into the ETW. I was gonna buy it just for that.

Oh well :/

Originally Posted by ladiesman

Wait, what?! when did this happen?! WTF?!

No Grand Campaign? Well....oh well. Enjoy your N:TW. I'm not buying it. I never play the scenarios or the small campaigns. I play the Grand Campaign. Without that, this game is pointless to me.

I was REALLY excited for the integration into the ETW. I was gonna buy it just for that.

Oh well :/

There is a grand campaign in chapter 3. You can play with 6 big nations and make diplomatic etc

Originally Posted by ladiesman

Wait, what?! when did this happen?! WTF?!

No Grand Campaign? Well....oh well. Enjoy your N:TW. I'm not buying it. I never play the scenarios or the small campaigns. I play the Grand Campaign. Without that, this game is pointless to me.

I was REALLY excited for the integration into the ETW. I was gonna buy it just for that.

Oh well :/

TW games are easily my favorite series, but not included a GC is making this game not even something Total War I'm not sure what I will do if this turns out true Honestly, this may be the first TW game I do not buy

We were never told that NTW units would integrate with E:TW. We were told that the graphics would and that the AI improvements would "if at all possible"; it was alluded that other features would also be shared, but obviously units are not this sort of thing; they would all be out of period.

Originally Posted by Marshal Beale

To me, ETW was a minor game compare to NTW, anyway, NTW has nothing to do with ETW, its a standalone game, the only thing they have in common is that it uses at its core, ETW's engine, but everything else is new. I think NTW will be bigger and better then ETW in every way, and that ETW should be more considered as the expansion for NTW, since it is not as good. Anyway, I hated the India and American theatres. I prefer just Europe! (From a Napoleonic lovers point of view)

Really? More of a minor game? That's interesting because Empire was probably in development the moment Rome went gold and Napoleon was apparently only started a couple of months before Empire shipped.

I would be surprised if bits and pieces of Empire aren't visibly left in Napoleon, I would be astonished if it is better in "every way".

Originally Posted by Marshal Beale

To me, ETW was a minor game compare to NTW, anyway, NTW has nothing to do with ETW, its a standalone game, the only thing they have in common is that it uses at its core, ETW's engine, but everything else is new. I think NTW will be bigger and better then ETW in every way, and that ETW should be more considered as the expansion for NTW, since it is not as good. Anyway, I hated the India and American theatres. I prefer just Europe! (From a Napoleonic lovers point of view)

Man, take it easy on the Napoleon fanboism its making me sick to my stomach. I like the Napoleonic era better myself but jeez, dont let it make you gullible.

CA blew ETW out their ass and considering that they worked on that game for years and years it should probably draw a little concern about the state NTW is going to be in. They have only been working on Napoleon for a year, the screenshots look exactly like Empire with different models, and their press releases read exactly like the ones for ETW did.

Originally, CA said that NTW was going to intergrate into ETW so people on here have every reason to be pissed about it. It was the last hope for Empire to be upgraded because CA obviously isnt going to fix it with STEAM patches anymore.

General Meevious is right, ""I would be surprised if bits and pieces of Empire aren't visibly left in Napoleon, I would be astonished if it is better in "every way".""

...couldnt have said it better myself.

i have somthing to say that will keep me playing the total war series, its makes me realy mad that i cant make my own castles and cities the way i want them, and the game realy limits u, u cant really make terrain or cities the way u want them, u can only go to custom battle and pick a map or play grand campainge..... i was wondering if their was gonna be a mod that came out soon that let me make my own custom castle and play it, or custom map!!! and do u know what be cool, if they made a game like rome total war, but u can do what ever u wanted in it, thats why i am kinda hatting mtw2, cause ur limited

you want to be able to create a city somewere and that within a few years 100.000 people live there? lol.

I think he wants to design the city layout. Like where the streets and houses would go on the battlemap.