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    I saw this on the Irish news a few days ago and was stunned by just how stupid some people can be.
    Seriously, staring at THE SUN to achieve a spiritual vision?

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/archives/...un-436702.html

    Pilgrims at a renowned religious site in the west of Ireland were warned today that staring at the sun in the hope of seeing apparitions could seriously damage their eyesight.

    Thousands of people flocked to pray at the Knock shrine in Co Mayo in October, where they claimed to see the sun shimmering and dancing in the sky.

    But University College Hospital Galway said it has seen five cases of the damaging eye condition solar retinopathy this year, with four directly linked to people gazing at the sun.

    Dr Eamonn O’Donoghue, consultant ophthalmologist surgeon at UCHG, said the hospital would normally see just one case a year on average.

    “All of these people were under the impression they would see a strange phenomenon if they looked at the sun and it is associated with events at Knock,” Dr O’Donoghue said.

    “It is a shame to see Knock being misused this way.”

    Knock, where the Virgin Mary, St Joseph and St John the Evangelist are said to have appeared in August 1879, has been a place of pilgrimage ever since.

    It is one of a series of sites in Ireland attracting hundreds of pilgrims over the last year in the hope of seeing an apparition.

    Locals in Rathkeale village, Co Limerick, held prayer vigils in a churchyard after a tree was cut down and some people claimed to be able to see an image of the Virgin Mary on the stump.

    Others have gathered at sites in Donegal and claimed to have seen holy statues weeping.

    People suffering from solar retinopathy have had the tissue at centre of their retina, known as the macular, effectively burned.

    “If you get a burn to the macular you are going to see bizarre phenomena,” the doctor said.

    “This is a tissue of very limited capacity for self-repair.”

    Normal vision could return after a few weeks for mild damage, but severe solar retinopathy will permanently damage a person’s vision.

    Thousands of people turned up at Knock on two occasions in October hoping to see a visitation from the Virgin Mary.

    It had been predicted by Dublin man Joe Coleman, a self-proclaimed spiritual healer.

    Mr Coleman, who has predicted another vision in Knock this Saturday, was not available for comment.


    Are there any other wacky pilgrimage stories out there?

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    Keeping to the theme of some of my less than mentally fit southern cousins....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Patrick%27s_Purgatory

    Thought more of a tourist attraction these days it still draws in the self-flaggelating crazy types.

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    Oh wow... that's just.... stupid.

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    No more stupid than the people who did the same thing at Medjugorje and Fatima, not to mention the idiots who were stare at the sun during solar eclipses. Besides, there is no sun in Ireland, it's very, very difficult to do too much harm to yourself by looking for it.




    This is Knock. Hardly an equatorial climate, now is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by emperorpenguin View Post
    I saw this on the Irish news a few days ago and was stunned by just how stupid some people can be.
    Seriously, staring at THE SUN to achieve a spiritual vision?

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/archives/...un-436702.html

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    I believe they let themselves be checked for any mental problems while they are there anyway.








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    Quote Originally Posted by emperorpenguin View Post
    Seriously, staring at THE SUN to achieve a spiritual vision?
    Well hell, how else are you going to replicate the Miracle at Fatima, besides fasting and dulling your brain?
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    How can you live in a place where there is barely any sun? Im not a fan of hot sunny day myself since Im not white, but I need some of it every day to feel good.


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    Besides, there is no sun in Ireland, it's very, very difficult to do too much harm to yourself by looking for it.
    Nope.Clouds don't block UV radiation, responsible for photochemical damage. Retinal damage could be the result of photochemical damage (UV) and termal damage.
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    There is a sun anywhere on the planet. Just got to wait for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    How can you live in a place where there is barely any sun? Im not a fan of hot sunny day myself since Im not white, but I need some of it every day to feel good.
    Silly Indonesian, evolution solved everything. You'll notice, when you visit the British isles, that the locals are not white, but pale blue. There is simply no sun there. That's why you would freeze to death there, and their/our skins will start to fall off when it gets too hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Silly Indonesian, evolution solved everything. You'll notice, when you visit the British isles, that the locals are not white, but pale blue. There is simply no sun there. That's why you would freeze to death there, and their/our skins will start to fall off when it gets too hot.
    Im not really talking about health but more about psychology.

    Im just saying you know like I said, I dont like hot day myself, but if its like cloudy all the time dont you feel grim and suicidal or something because of that? I personally need some sun to lighten my mood.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    I personally need some sun to lighten my mood.
    Certainly. It seems to improve depression, eg in seasonal affective disorder
    Seasonal affective disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Some clinical trials of bright therapy, eg:
    S67-04 Double blind randomised clinical trial of bright light ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludicus View Post
    Ya dude, when Im kinda depressed I will go outside and just stay under the sun for sometime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Im just saying you know like I said, I dont like hot day myself, but if its like cloudy all the time dont you feel grim and suicidal or something because of that? I personally need some sun to lighten my mood.
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    this is precisely why christianity in its modern form requires reform

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    this is precisely why christianity in its modern form requires reform
    It's not so much the fact they're Christians in this case but more the fact they're Irish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    It's not so much the fact they're Christians in this case but more the fact they're Irish.
    It's definitely the fact that they're christian, gullible and Joe Coleman's skill at misleading the weak and the desperate for the sake of his own ego. How does their nationality enter into this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    It's not so much the fact they're Christians in this case but more the fact they're Irish.
    LOL
    good one

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    Should have just dropped acid if they wanted a spiritual vision.

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