The Europa Barbarorum Wonders Project

[Tominokar]

The fairy chimneys and other natural rock formations in Cappadocia:







The City of Petra, with the most impressive buildings being the Monastery and Treasury.

[Sutman]

If you're gonna have skandza then the sacred site at uppsala, since even though we have no idea when the famous pagan temple was built, it must still have been a major sacred religious site before the temple was even built, since almost every place of beauty or significance was a sacred site, it was said that a huge tree stood on the site and some accounts say that it was either a sign of yggdrasil, the tree where Wodinaz/wotan/woden/odin hanged to find the secret of runes..... the time period is slightly off because we have very few accounts of scandic mythology of that time period, but i'd still wager that the site was known back then and worship happened back then

[dogukan]

Oh god I love all these ancient stuff...I want to visit them all, I actually wish I lived in the ancient ages

Anyways I have collection of a magazine which shows 5-6 ruins every month. I think that could help
*goes to check*

[Sutman]

Another one for skandza the tanumshede petroglyphs

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[hooahguy14]

To Hieron en tois Hierosolymois (The Holy Temple in Hierosolyma)

forgive me if i am wrong, but are the wonders supposed to be named in the native language that they are in?
in which case, this one, the holy temple in Jerusalem, is wrong, unless it was meant to be in greek, which, TBH i dont know why because it wasnt a greek structure.
i proved the real name back at the org a long time ago, heres the link to the proof.

[Marcus Bestia]

forgive me if i am wrong, but are the wonders supposed to be named in the native language that they are in?
in which case, this one, the holy temple in Jerusalem, is wrong, unless it was meant to be in greek, which, TBH i dont know why because it wasnt a greek structure.
i proved the real name back at the org a long time ago, heres the link to the proof.

i think greek name was intended because in EB time jerusalem/hierosolyma was under greek rule

[Moros]

The City of Petra, with the most impressive buildings being the Monastery and Treasury.

While Petra existed from before our timeframe, these rock carved façades and fancy buildings are mostly from 1 century BC to the 1 century AD.
Edit: the same is true for the similar buildings in Hegra/Hagra.

[Tominokar]

While Petra existed from before our timeframe, these rock carved façades and fancy buildings are mostly from 1 century BC to the 1 century AD.
Edit: the same is true for the similar buildings in Hegra/Hagra.

Fair enough, but even what were probably simple abodes are very impressive, carved into the sides of deep gorges with a flat plateau above. The system for transporting water is also remarkable, with many channels carved into the passages at the bottom of the gorge. The Siq itself I think warrants a place of natural wonder. Honestly, I have travelled extensively in the Middle East, and even without buildings such as the Treasury and Monastery, it is the most fascinating historical site I've visited.

[Moros]

The rocks themselve, or the city itself might be made a wonder or something but most of the architecture is 1BC or later. The nabataeans who lived there, were still mainly nomads at our starting game you know?

[Tominokar]

The rocks themselve, or the city itself might be made a wonder or something but most of the architecture is 1BC or later. The nabataeans who lived there, were still mainly nomads at our starting game you know?

Well I was told that settlement began around 6th Century BC, though of course there are still nomadic people in the Wadi Rum today.

[Tamtam]

Pontic Olbia or Olvia is the site of a colony founded by the Milesians on the shores of the Southern Bug estuary (Greek: Hypanis), opposite Berezan Island. Its harbour was one of the main emporia on the Black Sea for the export of cereals, fish, and slaves to Greece, and for the import of Attic goods to Scythia.

The triangular site of the Greek colony covers the area of fifty hectares. The lower town (now largerly submerged by the Bug) was occupied chiefly by the dockyards and the houses of artisans. The upper town was a main residential quarter, composed of square blocks and centered on the agora with temples scattered in the vicinity.

...another view...
The town was ringed by a stone wall with towers.

The Greek colony, highly important commercially, endured for a millennium. During the 5th century BCE, when the colony was visited by Herodotus, it minted distinctive cast bronze money in the shape of leaping dolphins.

Unusual in shape considering the round coins common in the Greek world, this form of money is said to have originated from sacrificial tokens used in the Temple of Apollo (Ἀπόλλων Δελφίνιος(dolphinos))...
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...and chancel of Zeus.
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Martin Litchfield West speculates that early Greek religion, especially the Orphic Mysteries, was heavily influenced by Central Asian shamanistic practices. A large number of Orphic graffiti unearthed in Olbia seems to testify that the colony was one major point of contact.(M.L. West, The Orphic Poems, 1983, p.146.)
After the town adopted a democratic constitution, its relations with Miletus were regulated by a treaty, which allowed both states to coordinate their operations against Alexander's general Zopyrion in the 4th century BC. By the end of the 3rd century, the town declined economically [A board of food commissioners was set up to distribute cereals among the population] and accepted the overlordship of King Skilurus of Scythia. It flourished under Mithridates Eupator but was sacked by the Getae under Burebista, a catastrophe which brought Olbia's economic prominence to an abrupt end.
(Last monument - Zeus Barrow [construction period: late 2nd AD; location: Upper Town, Olbia])

...reconstruction...
Having lost two thirds of its settled area, Olbia was restored by the Romans, albeit on a small scale and with a large admixture of barbarian population. Dio of Prusa visited the town and described it in his Borysthenic Discourse (the town was often called Borysthenes, after the river). The settlement, incorporated into the province of Lower Moesia, was eventually abandoned in the 4th century AD, when it was burnt at least twice in the course of the so-called Gothic (or Scythian) wars.

[Horatius Flaccus]

I believe Olbia is a normal city in EBI. But great info nonetheless!

[Moros]

Well I was told that settlement began around 6th Century BC, though of course there are still nomadic people in the Wadi Rum today.

Around the 6th Century the nabataeans didn't even live in petra. The original settling is even older, but is of edomite origin. The nabataeans are tought to have moved to Edom somewhere in the 5th century. Though there are various theories which all have their pro and contra arguments. Either way it is only from arounf the 4th century that the nabataeans began emerging as the regional power. Before them it were mainly the Qedar, arabian warlike nomads, who were the regional power.

[Tominokar]

Around the 6th Century the nabataeans didn't even live in petra. The original settling is even older, but is of edomite origin. The nabataeans are tought to have moved to Edom somewhere in the 5th century. Though there are various theories which all have their pro and contra arguments. Either way it is only from arounf the 4th century that the nabataeans began emerging as the regional power. Before them it were mainly the Qedar, arabian warlike nomads, who were the regional power.

I thought the original settling predated the Edoms, and was <1000BC, but what do I know. Regardless of when you believe the Nabateans moved to the area, Petra was definitely there before the start of the mod even if the most impressive building were not, which is surely what matters.

[Moros]

I thought the original settling predated the Edoms, and was <1000BC, but what do I know. Regardless of when you believe the Nabateans moved to the area, Petra was definitely there before the start of the mod even if the most impressive building were not, which is surely what matters.

There are indeed ancient trails of settlement, but nothing like a city or anything. It wasn't untill around our games period that petra became the size it was. And the monumental buildings are from the 1st century BC to the 1st century AD. Perhaps you are mistaken because of the often made (and outdated) connection between Petra and Sela(h). These are two seperate places though.

[Irishguy]

In holland, or the netherlands, they've got these things called 'Hunebedden' Big blocks of stones pilled on top of each other. there abaout 5000 years old an Have been seen in roman and ancient greek times. Ther probably graves. There not huge but quite big.

[Smeel]

In holland, or the netherlands, they've got these things called 'Hunebedden' Big blocks of stones pilled on top of each other. there abaout 5000 years old an Have been seen in roman and ancient greek times. Ther probably graves. There not huge but quite big.

Thats' fascinating, in my hometown in the North of sweden we have those too, "liggande hönor", "laying hens" and some stone burials.

[Dan Rares]

What about the sphinx in Bucegi Mountain what about the "Babele" in the Bucegi mountain

I think if you check you cand find very nice monuments in Dacia


http://oceanospotamos.wordpress.com/mitologie/

What about the alfa-iron pure by 99,97% of iron this is the procent of the iron in the metalurgy of the dacian one of the most advanced in the antic world this iron was discovered in Romania and it's 2000 and more years old but it's still clean i have an article about this but is in Romanian you cans use google translate even that is not precized enough

http://dacia.8m.net/Diverse/Cuiul_da...iul_dacic.html

[Spartolos]

I think mount Olympus would be a good idea.In Greek mythology the mountain was regarded as the "home of the gods", specifically of the Twelve Olympians, the twelve principal gods of the ancient Hellenistic world.

[Horatius Flaccus]

Just typing, "Mount Olympus" isn't really what I'm looking for- each Unique Building needs an original description of at least 100 words.