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    Feel free to post your completed campaigns in this thread and tell the story. If you have won a campaign and taken all of the regions required in your victory conditions, this is the place to show off your victory.

    Played long campaign on 4.2, VH/VH, ironman rules, FOW off except for screenshots.

    Here is my campaign as the Turks, the first campaign I have completed for ages, over a year at least. I am one of those players who very rarely gets to complete even a short campaign. However this campaign was so enjoyable to play and such a challenge that I can honestly say I didn't start to get bored until around turn 170. And then the age of gunpowder kicked in and kept me hooked for at least another hundred years! As the years passed, getting those 50 regions in time looked uncertain.

    My first serious problems were not with Antioch but with the Mongol hordes. To begin with I captured Edessa easily, then added Aleppo. Antioch would take much longer to capture with a tough city garrison though. When the mongols first besieged Tbilisi with a full stack I barely survived. However when they returned with even more armies I could hold it no longer. The problem with this campaign early on is that you will not be able to keep a peace with Byzantium. And being at war with Antioch as well puts you in a very vulnerable position. It means you can never fight the mongols with your best armies. Because often they are forced to fight elsewhere against your other enemies. Anyway I was doing pretty well against Antioch and holding my positions against the greeks for a long time. But with so many mongol armies pouring into the north I was in serious trouble. It was looking like unless I could finish Antioch off quickly I would almost certainly be crushed in the middle. Yerevan fell soon after Tbilisi but I held onto Tabriz and Trebizond for much longer.




    I managed to defeat Antioch around turn 60, and Jerusalem was made a vassal by Egypt for the time at least. So I was then able to concentrate on just 2 enemies at once. However the Pope called a Crusade and that would change everything. One by one each Catholic Kingdom joined the great Crusade on Cairo. And last but not least Jerusalem declared war on Egypt! This mean't that I was under immediate danger of being invaded by the Kingdom of Jerusalem. Although they only had Triploi and Acre left (thanks to Egypt) they still had about 5 good full stacks, so this was very scary indeed! Meanwhile regions like Iconium, Malatya, Sinope were changing hands often. The Mongols and the Byzantines in this particular campaign were the 2 most powerful factions in the world. So it was now that the crisis point was in the south. Against such strong attacks from Jerusalem Krak and Damascus fell quick. However I barely managed to hold onto Aleppo and Antioch. And this would save my campaign I think, because if the Catholics reconqured anymore of my regions in the Holy land and had time to get stronger I think all would be lost. After some key battles were won the danger passed and I rushed to take Tripoli and Acre before Egypt could get their dirty hands on them, this was achieved. Meanwhile the Crusade suceeded and Hungary captured Cairo. But this left a problem, many of the Catholic armies did not end up going home. Infact many off them walked into my regions and stayed their!!



    Anyway my next plan was to deal with the Byzantine Empire whilst holding the mongols. In this campaign I must note 2 castles are of the greatest importance. First Trebizond, and secondly Smyrna. Smyrna is where most of the greeks heaviest and best units are trained. Capturing it when the greeks are at their most powerful is extremely tough though. Because they constantly send full stacks at you into Anatolia from all corners of their empire. However if you can capture and hold this key castle it will make an attack on Nicea possible. This took me a long time but eventually I had all of Anatolia. It is also worth mentioning that when Byzantium are at war with Venice they are easier to fight. After winning Anatolia I called a Crusade on Constantinople. Because there was no way i could take it myself. At this point I decided to defend my new frontiers and get my bloody revenge on the mongols! By now the money was coming in and things were a lot easier. I attacked the mongols with great armies from 3 directions Baghdad, Adana and Caesarea. Finally I could concentrate most of my power on the mongols and kick them out. The reconquest was complete within 20-30 turns, I don't remember what number exactly. Meanwhile the Byzantines managed to retake Nicea from me but I retook it quickly. And the greeks were now at war with just about everyone. So the time to strike had come and the great siege of Constantinople begun. The garrison script for this great city is very tough and more reinforcements were needed before the attack could begin. Eventually the city fell but almost immediately (2 turns i think) the Pope called a crusade on Constantinople. I was suddenly faced with a war against the whole of Christandom which I was not expecting in the least! And it didn't take very long foe the whole of europe to converge on Constantinople and steel my prize. I sucessfully defended the city against Milan, Venice and the Papal states but it was Hungary once more who triumphed in the Crusade. However while this was all going on, new armies had already been sent out to retake the great city from the Crusaders. I recaptured the city and thought that was the end of the matter. But about 20 turns later the Pope called a second Crusade on Constantinople




    Anyway aside from this annoyance I started to think realistically about the best way to obtain 50 regions. I still only had about 30 regions and there was still a long way to go. In the end I decided on the easiest way my ally Egypt would be the next target. Venice neighboured me near Constantinople and looked very strong. Could I have taken on all of the Catholics and captured 20 regions from them in about the 150 turns I had left? I doubted it. Anyway the Egyptians would still be a powerful adversary. But the byzantine Empire were not finished. Although I captured Adrianople as well they sent elite armies out from Sofia. These were the toughest AI stacks in the whole campaign. The mongol armies had proved very tough armies to beat. But full stacks of Varangian Guard, Archontopoulai, Byzantine Gunners with gold chevrons.. I did try to capture Sofia and had it under siege twice but Byzantine reinforcements arrived just in time. Anyway my main focus was now on Egypt. To start with I attacked Jerusalem and Kerak at the same time. Took Kerak successfully, but the garrison script and egyptian reinforcements stopped me from taking Jerusalem at first. Before I could attempt to retake the holy city again though I had some late elite egyptian armies to face in battle. And they were certainly very tough, and I lost a few. I did not expect Egypt to field such good armies tbh, at this I am proud I also forgot to mention earlier that when the Crusaders had captured Cairo in the great Crusade over 100 turns ago. I had recaptured Cairo and held it for my friends the egyptians Having control of their capital city up until war helped enormously. Because I could fight them from deep within their own territory as well as the front around Jerusalem. I also had complete control of the seas so I could naval invade Egypt from Cyprus as well. As a result this war only took me about 30 turns to win. All that was left was to get another 5 regions or so from somewhere which I did in the end with about 100 turns to spare.




    In the end a great campaign, one of my most enjoyable, and well worth completing. Some of the late battles were so great. Perhaps if it were not for the mongols things would have been much easier. But lots of exciting moments, and a victory for the turks.





    Dave
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    Wow! You dominated. I have a question for you. What was the toughest enemy (single faction) you fought in that campaign? Was it the Mongols, Egyptians, Byzantines, or something else? I'm playing as the Byzantines and I'm having trouble with the Hungarians and their armoured Feudal Knights (dismounted and mounted). The Turks aren't that bad, neither are the Crusader States. It's just the Byzantines really suck against heavily armoured troops. Good thing I have those Greek Firethrowers!

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    Well the first 20 turns were not that hard actually. But after that I was on the defensive for most of the next 200 years The mongols were the largest faction for most of the game until late on when I overtook them. Russia and Lithuania were totally wiped out, and only the Teutonic Knights halted the mongol invasion. This is mostly because of the mongols free unit upkeep.

    Early on the mongols both on the campaign map and battle map were my toughest enemy. I forgot to mention that the mongols even sneaked through my defenses at one point and sacked Mosul as well. That was to be as far south as they would ever get though. Also the early turk units couldn't match the heavy mongol archers. The best horse archers I had for a while were Sipahis. But late on Byzantium fielded the best stacks in the whole world I think.

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    That sounds very interesting. I remember I tried a custom battle (set in the "all" period) and I was using the exact troops (exp, attack, defense, everything) from my largest and most powerful army at the time (1222 I think) and I tried to fight one of the Mongol armies that invade Europe from the vanilla game and I got slaughtered. I tried many other nations but, they still kicked my butt. Those mongols are really powerful. I like that though because they were a very powerful force when they reached Europe in actual history and the only two reasons that they stopped was that the Egyptians crushed them at the Battles of Ain Jalut (north of Jerusalem) and Mongolian infighting. The Golden Horde (Mongols holding Russia) actually allied with Egypt to fight against the Il-khans (Mongolian Empire holding the Middle East) and Crusaders.

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    Are you going to keep playing that campaign or just take your victory, Dave? Either way, nice work.
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    Very awesome campaign indeed

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    @Reece J,

    Nah, I don't think there is any need for me to play this further mate. The reason I wanted to play this campaign through myself was to see what was possible. The Turks campaign on VH/VH with fow off is hard, but not impossible, as I have proven. The difficulty is just about right I feel and I am happy with what I tested.

    @Hartassen,

    Thanks, the reason I posted this thread up here was not just to highlight my own victory. But I want to encourage people to play their campaigns more to completion. People may enjoy the early game, but trust me the late game is just as much fun if you stick at it. The Turks campaign is only 1 of many challenging campaigns in KGCM. And I hope that fans will post their personal campaigns in this thread and their stories with them

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Scarface View Post
    @Reece J,

    Nah, I don't think there is any need for me to play this further mate. The reason I wanted to play this campaign through myself was to see what was possible. The Turks campaign on VH/VH with fow off is hard, but not impossible, as I have proven. The difficulty is just about right I feel and I am happy with what I tested.

    @Hartassen,

    Thanks, the reason I posted this thread up here was not just to highlight my own victory. But I want to encourage people to play their campaigns more to completion. People may enjoy the early game, but trust me the late game is just as much fun if you stick at it. The Turks campaign is only 1 of many challenging campaigns in KGCM. And I hope that fans will post their personal campaigns in this thread and their stories with them

    Dave
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    well didnt the egyptians own italy for a while??

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    I guess no one is interested in contributing anything to this thread then, so time to unsticky it. Ashame because such a thread would have been most interesting I think.

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    I will as soon as I get finished helping with the translation for Warhammer.

    Although, It'll be from the beginning and won't all be in one post

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    Here is my recent HRE campaign.

    Since i was already in a war with Milan I went ahead and conquered Milan, then Florence and finally Genoa. Sicily also went to war with them and took Ajaccio and Caligari has changed hands from Milanese to Moors and now to the Sicilians.

    While fighting the Milanese I was attacked by the Danes around turn 30. So I quickly took their undermanned post of Stettin. My ally Norway also went to war with Denmark and allowed me a few turns to get a full stack and a half to Lubeck. After conquering their southern provinces the Danes offered a ceasefire and a lot of coin, so I accepted. I figured it was only a matter of time before the French attacked me because they allied with the Danes after I took Stettin.

    So I had 2-4 turns off peace before the French snuck through and began to siege Genoa. Well after a turn they decided that was unwise and retreated thus living up to their glorious reputation. I was able to assemble three full stacks of armoured sergeants, dismounted feudal knights, sergeant crossbowmen, and various siege equipment. First i took the underman city of Dijon. Then my other two stacks took Paris. Now the french were beggin for a ceasefire so I offered one for Bruges and they accepted. During this time I was able to sail a stack to North America and was able to colonize Havana and Florida. Took forever to quell the rebelion at havana but was able. Then i loaded a bunch of priest unto the mainland and had an easier time with florida.

    After France gave up I then concentrated on brazil. With a lot of indian mercs I was able to capture forteleza and was funneling priests and merchants into the gold rich amazon. So now I have more money than I need.

    So I did a toggle_fow to see where my allies were at with their own wars and I was surprised to see the Pope was dominating the lower Italian pennisula and that the english were being overrun by welsh. England is now a vasal of the French. Im preparing an invasion of the remaining sicilian territories before the pope gets them. My ally norway is tryin their best to control the baltic states but I'm sending an army to capture the last remaining rebel settlement of Reval and hopefully put a stop to their eastward expansion. The alliances are really confusing, much like the alliances prior to world war one which threw the whole world into conflict.

    So I am going to eliminate Sicily then finish of the Danes. After that I am eyeing Venice but if the French act up I prolly push them into the sea...

    http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...34773009ce.png

    Edit: This was after downloading Dave's christmas present. It seems the Rus are able to hold their own against the initial Mongol wave which is nice. The Order is holding off the pagans as well. I think the Papacy is a little to agressive now. Within the first 20 turns they had excommed at least 4 factions and was at war with Venice and Sicily. not sure what caused this but prolly has to do with them controlling Ancona. Soul once said change the papacy to catholic and see how they change... was this done with the new update? I've never messed with that I assume its in the EDB? And whats the normal setting for the papacy?
    Last edited by chris7ian; January 05, 2010 at 11:44 AM.

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    Been about 30 turns later i think. Ive conquered the rest of the Sicilian provinces except durazzo. The French did attack me again like a turn or two after the ceasefire. So i destroyed a fort of theirs and then the pope told me to stop. So ive been waiting for the 8 turns to pass and continue the genocide of the french populace. While I was waiting i attack Lithuania and conquered Palange, Riga, and the rebel town of Reval. I sent a stack to Minsk with a captain and lost a close fought battle. If it wasnt for my forlorn hope I would have been a masacre but they took it down to the wire but alas the 40 Generals bodyguards for too much for my 20 remaining forlorn hope. Lithuania then became a vasal of Poland so Im now at peace with them (damn alliances). Kievan Rus demand a payment to keep them from invading. So I thought i'd buy Novgorod from them for 10000 for 10 turns. Seemed like a good deal. However it had the plague and was going to rebel. So I sold everything off abandoned it and called my tribute. The next turn it reverts by to Kiev and they declare war on me.

    Now the wait for france is up and I took Clermont rather easily. I only used one of three stacks and lost less than 200 people. All forlorn hope and one pavise crossbowmen. I killed nearly 800. The latter part of the battle and a subsequent battle in the french countryside is watchable here. http://www.xfire.com/video/1db552/ Nothing too exciting im afraid. The second battle is hilarious though... Its a case of the french being french.

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    sorry for double post :/

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    Triple post

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    Hey- I was thinking, why not post this is the AAR sub-forum, and get us(or rather, yourself) some publicity. I'm pretty sure it'd be pretty decent compared to some already out there...-and perhaps, once the hols have started I'll write my own on the Hungarian Empire!!!
    p.s. how do you take high-quality screenies?
    Last edited by Magefsx; June 25, 2010 at 12:43 PM.

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    I second an AAR sub-forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peteriscoolz View Post
    I second an AAR sub-forum.
    Erm... I kinda meant the big, official one on the main page of TWC.... but anyway
    Heres one I made (ten minutes) earlier
    Be warned- it is just the start

    Flanders Faction AAR (or DAR)
    I have finally decided to start playing HHB, and to my pleasant surprise (well, not really ) it is awesome. Enough of flattery however; I’m here to write up my progress on a campaign playing as Flanders- I do enjoy playing as the underdogs.

    To begin with, I quickly established trade relations with the french along with map information as I do, to attempt to improve relations and (hopefully) prevent me getting squished in the first 5 mins of the game. With this slight peace of mind, I decided to take over half my manpower out of my cities and after Antwerp against the rebel scum who needed an new identity .

    The battle was short and sharp- even though I was ignoring the large quantity of crossbowmen- to the dismay of my dismounted knights templar, once they were in, they were in. My men quickly cut through all those on the walls (which were abandoned all too quickly IMO), and quickly moved on into the town center, where my pikemen made short work of the ill-equiped peasants.

    No man can face the human porcupine and live through it.
    All in all, an easy victory as ever, with the largest casualties taken by my best troops- which will undoubtedly become a serious problem in the foreseeable future. Now off to Ireland methinks, to help the english; or rather pinch a castle from under their noses- I desperately need one.

    Day 2


    Today, things took an interesting twist that had (and still has) the potential to cripple my nation... will it be so?
    Anyway, to start off with I decided to improve relations with nations around me, starting with an alliance with the HRE who undoubtedly will be a usefull ally in the near future. I also negotiated trade rights with Venice and Genoa, but unfortunately this did little to help the current recession I was going through. As a result of this financial crisis, my “take over Ireland” idea was an immediate failure, heralded and aided by the pesky french who (in natural fuedal french stupidity) decided to lay seige to Lille with a totally underpowered and tiny army. Dum Dum. So a short fight ensued and the french raiders were quickly beated off and ransomed for a rather healthy sum (to their dismay in the face of my newly recruited fuedal knights). Retribution will be mighty.... but will it be succesful?

    If you're hooked, this AAR is being continued here
    Last edited by Magefsx; June 29, 2010 at 08:49 AM.

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    Very nice AAR there my friend,did you edit the fog yourself?

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    New KGCM AAR forum coming any day now guys, just waiting for the admin

    Dave

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