Uganda's proposed anti-gay law.

[mongrel]

I am surprised no-one has picked this up yet, so I shall.

Christmas seems to be the season for trampling upon people's civil rights. A toxic blend of colonial era law and US evangelism has led to this....


An Anti-Homosexuality Bill (2009), is now before the Ugandan House’s Legal and Parliamentary Affairs Committee, proposes life imprisonment for acts of homosexuality and introduces a serious crime called “aggravated homosexuality" , that is a death sentence for sleeping with someone with Aids or a minor (no such provision for straight people mind, so Gary Glitter can party on). Likewise if one knows a gay person and fails to notify the authorities you will, according to the legislation be imprisoned. Does this mean that if I find myself in Kampala I must disclose to the authorities that I am aware of the activities of Lord Mandelson, Stephen Fry and Elton John?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...ntence-gay-sex

[Erik]

I am surprised no-one has picked this up yet

Yeah.

Every time a Muslim country does something like this, it's blown up to huge proportions.
But Uganda is a Christian country, so I guess those same people prefer not to mention it.

All of Christian Africa is homophobic, btw.

[antares24]

Yeah.

Every time a Muslim country does something like this, it's blown up to huge proportions.
But Uganda is a Christian country, so I guess those same people prefer not to mention it.

All of Christian Africa is homophobic, btw.

err Erik this wouldn't be news if it happened in a muslim country, most of them have homophobic laws and everyone know it, so it wouldn't be big news.

Same for Africa. What a silly law. The part about failing to notify about the "gay presence" especially. Meh as if those countries didn't already have big enough problems.

But hey their country their rules, i suppose.

[Tominokar]

All of Christian Africa is homophobic, btw.

Not true, there are certainly gay 'scenes' in some of the Cities (like in the Middle East), but those that are homophobic are certainly much more open and less PC about it.

It's a religious thing: Pope tell them homosexuals are bad, so they lock them up.

Luckily most Ugandans don't care what the Pope says, otherwise they wouldn't have done so well with reducing HIV.

[Erik]

Not true, there are certainly gay 'scenes' in some of the Cities

I've seen quite a bit of Africa, and I have never seen anything like that.

Luckily most Ugandans don't care what the Pope says, otherwise they wouldn't have done so well with reducing HIV.

Maybe if they listened to the "no sex before marriage" part.

But remember, the Pope also says "don't use condoms".

[Phier]

I've seen quite a bit of Africa, and I have never seen anything like that.

We're you looking for it?

http://goafrica.about.com/od/adventu.../gaytravel.htm

[Adar]

Regarding Ugandas succesful combat against HIV.

It's definately not done by abstinence, it is the most succesful in Africa and of course some religious nutcases try to screw it up.

I guess this mean that we can all sit around, hold hands and complain about the bigotry of Abrahamic religions and how they are holding back a humane and modern society...

[Tominokar]

I've seen quite a bit of Africa, and I have never seen anything like that.

Example: http://www.asylumlaw.org/docs/sexual...algayz.com.pdf

I've also seen a fair bit of East Africa, spent 2 months in Uganda itself, and didn't encounter it either. But doesn't mean it's not there.

But remember, the Pope also says "don't use condoms".

Yeh that was my point. I wasn't being sarcastic.

[Exarch]

uganda's laws, uganda';s customs
u can laugh at them or think less of them but it's their law according to their culture and values

[s.rwitt]

A toxic blend of colonial era law and US evangelism has led to this....

Whaaaaa?

Uganda christans are mostly Catholic, followed by Anglican.

[Dr. Croccer]

Whaaaaa?

Uganda christans are mostly Catholic, followed by Anglican.

He's got a point.

On September 2, 2007, the Uganda church consecrated an American bishop, John Guernsey of Virginia, to oversee many of the U.S. parishes that it supports.[7] This action was opposed by the Episcopal Church (TEC), the U.S. arm of the Anglican Communion. The Anglican Church in Africa is theologically conservative and deeply opposed to what it views as departures from orthodoxy in TEC, for example the ordination of gay priests.[8]

I doubt it's the Catholics as predominantly Catholic African countries like Angola don't have anti-LBGT laws.

[Phier]

Its central Africa and they already have homosexuality punishable by life in prison prior to this. This is a country that was ruled by Idi Amin (Muslim btw) and had 100's of thousands murdered in, well my lifetime.

Being archaic in their homosexuality tolerance is perhaps the least of their issues.

[Pickle_mole]

Its central Africa and they already have homosexuality punishable by life in prison prior to this. This is a country that was ruled by Idi Amin (Muslim btw) and had 100's of thousands murdered in, well my lifetime.

Being archaic in their homosexuality tolerance is perhaps the least of their issues.

Too true!

[Admiral Piett]

Madness? It's Uganda!

[Machiavelli25]

I am surprised no-one has picked this up yet, so I shall.

Christmas seems to be the season for trampling upon people's civil rights. A toxic blend of colonial era law and US evangelism has led to this....


An Anti-Homosexuality Bill (2009), is now before the Ugandan House’s Legal and Parliamentary Affairs Committee, proposes life imprisonment for acts of homosexuality and introduces a serious crime called “aggravated homosexuality" , that is a death sentence for sleeping with someone with Aids or a minor (no such provision for straight people mind, so Gary Glitter can party on). Likewise if one knows a gay person and fails to notify the authorities you will, according to the legislation be imprisoned. Does this mean that if I find myself in Kampala I must disclose to the authorities that I am aware of the activities of Lord Mandelson, Stephen Fry and Elton John?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...ntence-gay-sex

Such blatant hypocrisy.

Uganda may be uber-religious, but at least they've had a drop in aids rates. Thats probably what partly motivated this law (people are scared of homosexuals since they believe them to carry desease). All rather ignorant, but understandable in such a poverty and desease stricken nation.

[Erik]

Thats probably what partly motivated this law (people are scared of homosexuals since they believe them to carry desease).

They have been hating homosexuals long before AIDS even existed, so at most AIDS has made a bad situation worst.

It's a religious thing: Pope tell them homosexuals are bad, so they lock them up.

[Machiavelli25]

They have been hating homosexuals long before AIDS even existed, so at most AIDS has made a bad situation worst.

It's a religious thing: Pope tell them homosexuals are bad, so they lock them up.

Can you give me a quote? Obviously there must be one, you seem very sure.

[Erik]

Can you give me a quote? Obviously there must be one, you seem very sure.

Just my personal experience, I grew up in Ghana and I've traveled in Africa quite a lot.

Considering Uganda is the most catholic country in Africa, I've always found it strange that its also the only african country to have a real drop in aids rates, considering most people blame aids on the Catholic Church.

Most strange.

Even after the drop, it still has one of the highest HIV/AIDS rates on the continent.

[Machiavelli25]

Just my personal experience, I grew up in Ghana and I've traveled in Africa quite a lot.

Personal experience of what? Can i have my quote please, or can you retract your statement.

[Nevins]

I am surprised no-one has picked this up yet, so I shall.

Christmas seems to be the season for trampling upon people's civil rights. A toxic blend of colonial era law and US evangelism has led to this....

What in the world do America's Evangelists have to do with this?

But remember, the Pope also says "don't use condoms".

But remember, only half of Uganda's Christian population is Catholic, and I sincerely doubt Anglicans could give a damn about what the Pope says.