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    Default Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards

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    In a little-noticed blog post published on the White House website in September, President Obama's special counsel for ethics and government reform Norm Eisen announced that the administration no longer wanted federally-registered lobbyists appointed to agency advisory boards and commissions.

    These appointees to boards and commissions, which are made by agencies and not the President, advise the federal government on a variety of policy areas. Keeping these advisory boards free of individuals who currently are registered federal lobbyists represents a dramatic change in the way business is done in Washington.

    As has been reported, the President has made a commitment to close the revolving door that has in the past allowed lobbyists and others to move to and from full-time federal government service. In furtherance of this commitment, the President issued Executive Order 13490, which bars anyone appointed by the President who has been a federally-registered lobbyist within the past two years from working on particular matters or in the specific areas in which they lobbied or from serving in agencies they had lobbied. The aspiration we are announcing today builds on this commitment. While the letter of the President's Executive Order on Ethics does not apply to federally-registered lobbyists appointed by agency or department heads, the spirit does and we have conveyed that to the agencies who are responsible for these appointments.

    On Friday, the Washington Post reported that the move "may turn out to be the most far-reaching lobbying rule change so far from President Obama," resulting in "hundreds, if not thousands, of lobbyists" being ejected from federal advisory panels.

    Not surprisingly, lobby groups, corporations, and other K Street influencers are up in arms.

    The reaction from the lobbying community has been swift and overwhelmingly negative. Some of the loudest criticism has come from the Industry Trade Advisory Committees (ITACs), a collection of more than a dozen panels that provide policy advice and technical assistance to the Commerce Department and the U.S. Trade Representative. The ITACs, whose roughly 400 members include at least 130 lobbyists, officials say, have taken the lead in attacking the White House policy as misguided and harmful to U.S. business interests; a letter to Obama from committee chairs last month included executives from Boeing, IBM, Harley-Davidson and International Paper.

    "This action will severely undermine the utility of the advisory committee process," the letter read. ". . . The characteristics that make many Advisors valuable to the Administration [are] the same characteristics that are being used to artificially disqualify them from participation in the Committee system."
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    Good to hear Obama's starting to get serious about lobbyist reform, seems to be a step in the right direction in my opinion. Now if only reform could be replaced with 'destroyed in favor of a more transparent system'...
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    Yeah a little too late. His administration is riddled with lobbyists.

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    ^Stole my point...

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    How do we know who is a lobbyist again?

    federally-registered lobbyists
    I see. I guess like fire-arms, it's the unregistered ones you have to worry about.


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    Default Re: Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards

    They're registered.

    Here's an example:

    Mark Patterson was a registered lobbyist for Goldman until April 11, 2008, according to public filings.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6735898&page=1

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    Looks like the Lobbyist's need to hire a Lobbyist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    Looks like the Lobbyist's need to hire a Lobbyist.
    They should get unionized!
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    Victory for democracy I suppose

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    Dear leader, please don't listen to them. Listen to the things we say about the news agenda set by the corporate media after listening to the information given by the corporate media. That would be real democracy.

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    Obama Pushes Conservative Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards
    Fixed that title for you.

    Just another move to neuter the opposition. do you really think he would hurt his own cause?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jman47 View Post
    Fixed that title for you.

    Just another move to neuter the opposition. do you really think he would hurt his own cause?
    According to the article, *none* of the more than 13,000 lobbyists in Washington will be able to hold seats on the advisory committees. It doesn't make a distinction between conservative and liberal.
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    "Lobbyist"...

    Quote Originally Posted by jman47 View Post
    Just another move to neuter the opposition. do you really think he would hurt his own cause?
    Yup and nope.

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    Default Re: Obama Pushes Lobbyists Off Federal Advisory Boards

    So hang on instead of letting Goldman Sachs employees lobby he has given them jobs in regulation no? That sounds more efficient anyway, cut out the middle man and just give them the power!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    So hang on instead of letting Goldman Sachs employees lobby he has given them jobs in regulation no? That sounds more efficient anyway, cut out the middle man and just give them the power!
    Which article did you read?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    Which article did you read?
    It was actually an interview on Radio Four in the uk with a whole host of economists and business comentators and this was actually a minor aside of the program which was about supercomputing in stock markets.

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/ju...gold-j15.shtml
    It has supplied the top personnel for government economic policy-making in the Democratic Clinton, Republican Bush and Democratic Obama administrations. Bush’s treasury secretary, Henry Paulson, formerly the CEO of Goldman, saw to it that the government bank bailout paid especially rich dividends to his former company. This included a bailout of AIG that allowed the company to pay off billions of dollars in derivatives debts to Goldman at 100 percent.
    The list of former Goldman Sachs employees holding top positions in the Obama administration includes:
    • Mark Patterson, a former Goldman Sachs lobbyist, who is the chief of staff to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner (himself the former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York).
    • Reuben Jeffery III, former managing partner at Goldman Sachs, who holds the post of undersecretary of state for economic, business, and agricultural affairs.
    • Neel Kashkari, former Goldman Sachs vice president, who is the assistant secretary of the treasury for financial stability, responsible for administering the TARP funds.
    • Dianna Farrell, former financial analyst at Goldman Sachs, who serves as deputy director of the National Economic Council.
    There is a word to describe this type of socio-economic order: Plutocracy, i.e., rule by the rich. This is the reality behind the increasingly thin veneer of democracy in America.
    The Obama administration in an instrument of the plutocrats, and the American people are the victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    The Obama administration in an instrument of the plutocrats, and the American people are the victims.
    What's that really have to do with Obama setting policy where you can either influence the legislative branch as a registered lobbyist or you can influence the executive on the advisory boards, but not both(as you could before this)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    What's that really have to do with Obama setting policy where you can either influence the legislative branch as a registered lobbyist or you can influence the executive on the advisory boards, but not both(as you could before this)?
    That was merely the source not what I originally said. The source was merely a random google to pull out some names of Goldman Sachs who have been given jobs, the list will go on longer with a little bit of research which references my original point if you could refer to that should you wish more discussion on it. One arguement is that the people in the industry know the system and are best placed to regulate it as they have the knowledge. Unfortunately logically it makes sense but it is entirely ignorant of human psychology. Nepotism is rife within the regulatory, legislative and financial systems and only a fool would deny this.

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    Clinton always said that despite his best intentions, lobbyists are a fact of life. For an incoming POTUS, declaring them persona non grata, simply is not possible if you intend to get anything done whatsoever. Unfortunate fact of politics, in any 'Democracy'.

    The only thing Obama is guilty of, is suggesting otherwise. Maybe now he can come with the pimp hand a bit more.
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    Yea but this isn't about who can advise in the pure sense that you're pushing. This is more about separation of powers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    Yea but this isn't about who can advise in the pure sense that you're pushing. This is more about separation of powers.
    That is the point I wasn't saying that who could advise would exist within a perfect bubble. Quite the opposite.

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