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    TROPAS COLONIALES VIRREINATO DEL RIO DE LA PLATA (II)
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    El 1º ESCUADRON DE HUSARES DEL REY (HUSARES DE PUEYRREDON)



    El 2º ESCUADRON DE HUSARES ( HUSARES DE VIVAS)



    El 3º ESCUADRON DE HUSARES ( HUSARES DE NUÑEZ/ HUSARES INFERNALES)


    4º ESCUADRON DE HUSARES (CARABINEROS DE HERRERA or CAZADORES DE LA REINA)



    URBANOS CARABINEROS DE CARLOS IV



    MIGUELETES DEL ILUSTRISIMO CABILDO (MIGUELETES DE CASTEX)


    El CUERPO DE VOLUNTARIOS LABRADORES DE CABALLERIA (CUERPO DE LABRADORES Y QUINTERO)
    Are not these units from the beginning of the 19th century?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasa121 View Post
    Are not these units from the beginning of the 19th century?
    Yes, from the ending of the XVIII century and the beginning of the XIXth

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    Regimiento de LINEA, ESPAÑA, MALLORCA O IRLANDA (green)




    ASTURIAS MILITIAS (yes, i know, Napoleonic Period, but the same costume in the XVIII century)








    COMPAÑIA DE GUARDABOSQUES DEL REY 1761


    GUARDIAS WALONAS








    REGIMIENTOS COLONIALES (sorry i didn´t more information, only they are from the South America)


    Oficial de Regimiento de Dragones de la Frontera

    Soldado de Infanteria 1778

    Oficial del Cuerpo de Ingenieros 1778

    Oficial del Real cuerpo de Artilleria 1778


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    Great infoREP++
    And could You tell us something about Spanish quality?
    I've heard many theories, some said Spain were weak, some they were strong...I will search something in Your books anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salvo View Post
    Great infoREP++
    And could You tell us something about Spanish quality?
    I've heard many theories, some said Spain were weak, some they were strong...I will search something in Your books anyway

    allright, let me explain that:

    contrary to popular belief, while spain was a power in decline, the soldiers who fought in the ranks were capeable of acts of bravery on the battlefield, and were actually trained: this can be seen in Italy and in Venezuela (v. Britain).

    now here is where things get messy: the Spanish, inspite of individual bravery, were poorly led, poorly motivated, and let's face it, treated as . the probelm was that the officer corps, as in France, rose from the nobility by favortism, not merit. this, combined with an outdated regimental and staff operations system, made the spanish army, at best, a mediocre one. this is seen in reports of Spanish soldiers mugging and attacking their own officers, or deserting en masse from one regiment to another.

    so if I wanted to depict the morale of a unit in E:TW, it should be ok, but also relatively fragile-equivalent to RTW unitts having a morale of 3 or 4, but undisciplined or normal for resistance to morale shock. also, in the period starting from c.1730, the militia should have only a slightly lower quality status than the regulars: this is because of their use as "fillers" to supplement the ranks in emergency situations. also, militia serving in spanish counties from 1730-1763 wore iron blue (I noticed it was missing up there)

    I've been reading some more
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    ThanksREP++
    My main knowlage is mainly about east factions like Prussia, Sweden, Russia and of Course Poland

    And what about navy? Spain still had mainly big, heavy ships?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salvo View Post
    ThanksREP++
    My main knowlage is mainly about east factions like Prussia, Sweden, Russia and of Course Poland

    And what about navy? Spain still had mainly big, heavy ships?
    Yes, British and Spanish Navy were the BEST in the XVIII, but Trafalgar...

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    Quote Originally Posted by carricanta View Post
    Yes, British and Spanish Navy were the BEST in the XVIII, but Trafalgar...
    This was XIX century

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salvo View Post
    This was XIX century
    Yeah! i recommend you to watch the film "Alatriste" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAcrIr84OdQ about the spanish XVII century (our Golden Century), starred by Vigo Mortensen. Spaniards fought in the XVI, XVII, XVII and XIX century all over the world and they got a traditional state of war (remember the fight against the muslims in the middle ages), and them with this experience, the warfare for the spaniards were so familiar

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    Thanks, I really like...I mean love Spain becouse we Poles have similar. We were a power in XVIII century, than it was worst...Although You weren't a dead power in XVIII century like Poland
    about the spanish XVII century (our Golden Century)
    I thought XVI century is Your golden age... You build big empire, You were one of the main powers in Europe...And You won at Lepanto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salvo View Post
    Thanks, I really like...I mean love Spain becouse we Poles have similar. We were a power in XVIII century, than it was worst...Although You weren't a dead power in XVIII century like Poland

    I thought XVI century is Your golden age... You build big empire, You were one of the main powers in Europe...And You won at Lepanto
    Yes, perhaps in military (but remember the Armada´s fiasco in XVI century) but not in Arts (Velázquez, Lope de Vega, Góngora, Cervantes...).
    Anyway, in the Spanish War of Sucession there was ideas about divide Spain between Great Britain, Austria and France

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    That movie looks very good. When is release?

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    The film was released in 2006

    It was a great film if didn´t mixture every Alatriste´s book in an only film.



    No nos podemos rendir, somos un Tercio español
    We can surrender, we are a spanish Tercio

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    I will have to track down a copy. I am surprised I hadn't heard of it before now. Thanks for the heads up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol Invictus View Post
    I will have to track down a copy. I am surprised I hadn't heard of it before now. Thanks for the heads up.
    That´s a pleasure! if you want more information, i can send you answers

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    Early 18th century Spanish musketeer

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    PENSACOLA


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    SPANISH UNITS IN HISPANIC AMERICA



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    OFFICER. CADIZ MILITIA 1797


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    OFFICER. MANILA´S URBAN MILITIA. CARLOS III KINGDOM


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    SERGEANT (DIFFERENTS REGIMENTS) 1735
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    FELIPE V 1700-1746




    From left to right:
    - Dragón del Tercio de Valanzat; 1703-1718.
    - Caballería de Línea, Regimiento de Nestien; 1702-1728.
    - Reales Guardia de Corps, Compañía Flamenca; 1703.
    - Coracero del Real Regimiento Alemán; 1735.
    - Húsar de la Muerte; 1705.


    From left to right:
    - Primer Regimiento de Húsares Españoles; 1742-1747.
    - Capitán del Regimiento de Dragones de Belgia; 1740-1760.
    - Abanderado del Regimiento de Infantería de Cádiz; 1732.
    - Dragones de pavía; 1728.


    From left to right:
    - Oficial de Infantería de Línea, Regimiento de Extremadura; 1718-1834.
    - Granadero del Regimiento Irlandés Hibernia; 1732.
    - Fusilero de Montaña; 1735.
    - Caballería de Línea, Regimiento Farnesio; 1728.
    - Tambor del Regimiento de Dragones de Sagunto; 1707-1718.
    - Dragón del Regimiento de Almansa; 1718-1728.



    From left to right:
    - Capitán General.
    - Oficial de órdenes de un Capitán Genral.
    - Minador en uniforme de trabajo; 1710.
    - Oficial del Real Cuerpo de Artillería; 1710.
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    FELIPE V 1700-1746


    From left to right: :
    - Oficial de las Reales Guardias Walonas de Infantería; 1718.
    - Granadero de las Reales Guardias Españolas de Infantería; 1718.
    - Brigada de Granaderos a Caballo; 1732-1748.
    - Reales Guardias Alabarderos; 1718.
    - Fusileros del Regimiento de Línea España; 1707-1718.


    From left to right:
    - Fusilero del Tercio de los "Colorados Viejos"; 1701-1707.
    - Granadero del Tercio de los "Amarillos Viejos"; 1701-1707.
    - Tambor del Terciode los "Verdes Viejos"; 1701-1707.
    - Oficial del Tercio de los "Morados Viejos"; 1701-1707.
    - Granadero de las Reales Guardias Españolas.
    - Mosquetero de la Guardia del Rey; 1700-1703
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    FERNANDO VI 1746-1759



    From left to right:
    - Brigada de Carabineros Reales.
    - Tambor de las Reales Guardias Españolas.
    - Granadero de las Reales Guardias Walonas.
    - Teniente General en uniforme de gala.


    From left to right:
    - Regimiento Real de Artillería.
    - Pífano de las Reales Guardias Walonas.
    - Oficial de las Reales Guardias de Corps.
    - Oficial del Real Cuerpo de Ingenieros.
    - Sargento del Regimiento Fijo de Orán; 1758.
    - Fusilero del Regimiento Antiguo de Reding; 1758.
    - Granadero del Regimiento Navarra; 1750.


    From left to right:
    - Timbalero de Carabineros Reales.
    - Trompeta de las Reales Guardias de Corps.
    - Abanderado de las Reales Guardias Españolas.
    - Oficial del Regimiento de Caballería de Línea Barcelona.
    - Soldado del Regimiento de Caballería de Línea Calatrava; 1750.
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