Seasons Greetings to all except Mail readers.

[mongrel]

David Cameron gets some stick because hiis party the audacity to give out Christmas cards that say "Seasons Greetings" and bear a modified version of the Conservative emblem. I suppose it serves him right for jumping on the Winterval bandwagon a couple of years back

Two years ago he derided politically-correct Christmas cards which do not mention the word Christmas as 'insulting tosh'.

But last night David Cameron was facing a backlash from his own party after it emerged the Conservative official cards have the message 'Season's Greetings'.

The Christmas cards, which are available on the party's website, avoid all religious imagery - preferring generic winter scenes and pictures of robins to pictures of Jesus and the Three Kings.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-brigade.html

I don't know about the rest of you, but as far as I remember "Seasons Greetings" has been used on Xmas cards since forever. After all there are more holy days than Xmas itself over the season.Not that such cards are necessarily part of christian culture. They weren't invented until 1843.

The term "With the Season's Greetings" emerged in the 19th century. I fail to see how this ties in with the modern myth of the PC brigade.

[Shaun]

To be honest, I've always thought of "Season's Greetings" as another way of saying "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year". I can remember it being said as long as I have been alive, which is longer than the whole PC brigade bollocks has been around.

Just the usual Daily Mail rubbish.

[mongrel]

To be honest, I've always thought of "Season's Greetings" as another way of saying "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year". I can remember it being said as long as I have been alive, which is longer than the whole PC brigade bollocks has been around.

Just the usual Daily Mail rubbish.

Indeed.

To hammer the point home here is a Victorian Xmas card, it fails all the Daily Mail tests

[Erik]

Indeed.

To hammer the point home here is a Victorian Xmas card, it fails all the Daily Mail tests

Just proves the war on Christmas dates back to Victorian times.

[S.L.I.G]

I agree in that regard, but what to the rest of the complaints? I mean, why *is* there no pictures of religious scenes? I mean, does it at least show Santa and all that? If people want to make Christmas less offensive, just show other traditions celebrated during the holidays that are popular in the country, I see no need to pick "Christian Christmas" or "multicultural Christmas" when it can easily be both.

[mongrel]

I agree in that regard, but what to the rest of the complaints? I mean, why *is* there no pictures of religious scenes? I mean, does it at least show Santa and all that? If people want to make Christmas less offensive, just show other traditions celebrated during the holidays that are popular in the country, I see no need to pick "Christian Christmas" or "multicultural Christmas" when it can easily be both.

See Victorian Xmas card picture above. By definition a card featuring family, flowers fairies or other (non-religious) themes is more likely to be traditional. But I suppose it would not have hurt to offer some Santa, snowman or Jesus cards as an alternative.

Just proves the war on Christmas dates back to Victorian times.

Fiendish!

[Frankie88]

Another non issue and the newspapers just keep ing about it getting harder and harder to survive well priniting horse like this may have something to do with it.

[S.L.I.G]

See Victorian Xmas card picture above. By definition a card featuring family, flowers fairies or other (non-religious) themes is more likely to be traditional. But I suppose it would not have hurt to offer some Santa, snowman or Jesus cards as an alternative.

Fair enough. Seasonal greetings is a Christmas thing in Canada and always has been, but your example of a card isn't the Canadian thing so at first thought, the idea of *not* having Santa or Jesus immediately brings forth the idea of pushing out the traditional view of Christmas, though obviously British Christmas and Canadian has differences.

[Shaun]

I agree in that regard, but what to the rest of the complaints? I mean, why *is* there no pictures of religious scenes? I mean, does it at least show Santa and all that? If people want to make Christmas less offensive, just show other traditions celebrated during the holidays that are popular in the country, I see no need to pick "Christian Christmas" or "multicultural Christmas" when it can easily be both.

There is no distinction between the two here. Only one Christmas which is celebrated by religious and non religious folks alike, which is in no way banned, illegal and does not offend anyone.

[motiv-8]

Mail readers get Season's Beatings.

[Dr. Croccer]

I mean, why *is* there no pictures of religious scenes? I

He's a politician. The minute chance of a small religious or political minority of a few individuals getting offended and not votin for him is apparantly too big a risk.

[S.L.I.G]

He's a politician. The minute chance of a small religious or political minority of a few individuals getting offended and not votin for him is apparantly too big a risk.

Yeah, and thats pathetic. But hey, apparently hes still showing traditional Christmas images, and as im not British I don't really have the authority to say Religious/Sanata [etc] images actually have been removed like the Daily mail is claiming. Even here people make claims that Christmas is being censored and, I guess to a degree by the politicians it is, but in actual society Christmas is as alive as ever, and isnt really under attack.

[Shaun]

He is still showing traditional Christmas images, yes. Don't worry, Christmas isn't banned here.

[mongrel]

Oh for feck's sake, an Xmas Cracker Company changes some ancient and finds itself increasing profits by 21%.

The Mails response?

Pull the other one! Christmas cracker gags to keep the PC brigade happy



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1230708/Cracker-gags-PC-brigade-happy.html

[danzig]

Personally I dont care about all the hoopla about holidays, every year its the same crap war on xmas cries...while the concept of war on xmas is only in the mind of delusional people the holiday stuff is far too pc. Like someone explain why in the world I have to hear Happy Kwanza a holiday created by a felony, has no historical basis and celebrated by relatively few people. May as well make Festivus a holiday....

[s.rwitt]

May as well make Festivus a holiday....

For the Restivus!!!

[Barry Ferguson]

The Daily Mail can suck my fat hairy cock

[Bovril]

I find the Mail's new found enthusiasm for Christianity rather interesting. It mirrors that of the BNP and otherultra-nationalist groups. Is it possibly an 'acceptable' way to rail against imigrants? I doubt they have much of a problem with secularism per se.

[Shaun]

Most of the Christians I knew had views almost completely opposite those that the Daily Mail spouts.

[mongrel]

Off topic, but too LOL not to share. Let this serve as a warning to sloppy editors everywhere.