Errors of units in the game

Here I will show the errors of the latest units from the NTW. This topic will be helpful for CA to know how to fix all errors. This topic will be updated by me.

All units come from here:
http://www.totalwar.com/napoleon/add-ons/?u=1
http://www.totalwar.com/napoleon/add-ons/?u=2

These are the most recent official screenshots released by CA.

1. I found a few bugs units of hussars. Firstly, the CA has done is not the 5th regiment, but the 6th Regiment.

2. CA forgot to give hussars trouser belts. They always wore trouser belt.

ad1. Screens:

5e Regiment de Hussards - France:
''Light and fast, these veterans of the American War of Independence can quickly reach areas of the battlefield where they are most needed, cutting down the enemy with their curved sabres.''




ad2. Screens:

Your rather astute observations may well spoil these reasonably decent units for those who will purchase them.
But still, well spotted, perphaps you could be Jacks advisor, that's if you didn't drive him barmy!

1. The 5th Hussars did wear red shakos, blue dolmans, white pelisses and blue trousers, however the trumpeters in the regiment are variously shown as wearing red trousers or red trousers and pelisse in contrast with the other soldiers. So the uniform is accurate.

2. Yup belts are missing, won't be changing though all the art parts for units are now done apart from a few bits of bug fixing.

Originally Posted by Jack Lusted

1. The 5th Hussars did wear red shakos, blue dollmans/pelisses and blue trousers, however the trumpeters in the regiment are variously shown as wearing red trousers or red trousers and pelisse/dollman. So the uniform is accurate.

2. Yup belts are missing, won't be changing though all the art parts for units are now done apart from a few bits of bug fixing.

Will these sorts of things be editable in the uniform editor or is that still up in the air?

Originally Posted by erasmus777

Will these sorts of things be editable in the uniform editor or is that still up in the air?

What? In the air? what.... i never heard about that.

I Support King Louise Assurbanipal

Will these sorts of things be editable in the uniform editor or is that still up in the air?

Good question indeed.

Geesh how hard can it be to just add a belt that can be copied-pasted onto other units? It could be considered a 'bug'. Releasing a model-importer for 3dsMax etc. (FINALLY) would also be a godsend. However the units are looking nice though.

Are you kidding? This is not supposed to be a simulation of Osprey Publishing. Who cares if a belt buckle's out of place?

Originally Posted by IronBrig4

Are you kidding? This is not supposed to be a simulation of Osprey Publishing. Who cares if a belt buckle's out of place?

I wonder.

These publishings are obviously concept arts or paintings that the artists did. My question though is did these soldiers truly wore every single detail according to these paintings? I highly doubt that.

Originally Posted by nameless

I wonder.

These publishings are obviously concept arts or paintings that the artists did. My question though is did these soldiers truly wore every single detail according to these paintings? I highly doubt that.

varies by the painting, look at when it was painted and possibly by whom for the answer to how authentic it is.

Originally Posted by IronBrig4

Are you kidding? This is not supposed to be a simulation of Osprey Publishing. Who cares if a belt buckle's out of place?

Originally Posted by nameless

I wonder.

These publishings are obviously concept arts or paintings that the artists did. My question though is did these soldiers truly wore every single detail according to these paintings? I highly doubt that.

Might as well change everything ourselves and make everything up...

Originally Posted by Razor

Might as well change everything ourselves and make everything up...

Ah the good ol' "well why don't we do just that then" argument. very smart, very good comeback but that's not what I was getting at. Why you whiners freak out and treat us like heretics when we make these posts I have no idea.

I was actually pointing back to Lusted's post and the fact that you cannot reach 100% historical accuracy.

1. The 5th Hussars did wear red shakos, blue dolmans, white pelisses and blue trousers, however the trumpeters in the regiment are variously shown as wearing red trousers or red trousers and pelisse in contrast with the other soldiers. So the uniform is accurate.

So aside from the general attire the soldiers in the regiments, which I'm assuming could be over a 1000, there may be some inconsistencies in the minor details of their wear. My question to you historcial buffs really is, did each and every soldier wore the exact detail down to the angle of the belt and colors or location of the pouches? I am talking about the minor details.

One person's historical accuracy is another person's historical inaccuracy.

I mean when people start getting down to the depth of the color of the uniforms, angle of the belts, mustaches and the beards etc. Isn't that getting a little too anal?

Hussars without belts? no...

This Osprey is correctly - paintings by one of the best historical illustrator - Angus McBride.

from wikipedia:

Born in London to Highland Scots parents, Angus McBride was orphaned as a child when his mother died when he was five, and his father in World War Two when he was twelve. He was educated at the Canterbury Cathedral Choir School. He served his National Service in the Royal Fusiliers, and afterward got a job as an advertising artist.
Due to Britain's poor economic state immediately following World War II, McBride found it necessary to leave for South Africa. In Cape Town, he became a fairly well known and successful artist. However, he felt that he could not expand on his artistic plans in South Africa's small publishing industry. Consequently, in 1961, McBride moved back to England. He made his first works in educational magazines such as Look and Learn, World of Wonder and Bible Story. In 1975, he began to work with Osprey Publishing's Men-at-Arms series.
As England's economy again suffered in the 1970s, McBride moved with his family back to Cape Town, and continued to work with British and American publishers. He continued to do realistic, historical illustrations for Osprey Publishing as well as other such work for other military-history publishers (Concord publications, etc.). In fantasy circles, McBride was well-known for his illustrations for Iron Crown Enterprises' game Middle-earth Role Playing (MERP).
Although a few of his paintings are in oils, Angus McBride mostly preferred to work in gouache colors on illustration boards, making numerous detailed sketches of the composition before starting to paint.
Angus McBride died on 15 May 2007.

dude you have to calm down you are getting upset about the smallest things. If you want something to be historically accurate mod it yourself. there are much more important things to be fixed in the game and the attention shouldnt be entirely on uniforms and colours. last time I checked the AI was buggy as hell fix this and then we can complain about uniforms.

Originally Posted by theflyingsamurai

dude you have to calm down you are getting upset about the smallest things. If you want something to be historically accurate mod it yourself. there are much more important things to be fixed in the game and the attention shouldnt be entirely on uniforms and colours. last time I checked the AI was buggy as hell fix this and then we can complain about uniforms.

Do not use this argument, it is flawed. Flawed beyond oblivion. Now take a minute and think about it. Does CA's historical accuraccy/modelling team work with the AI? - no. So there, your argument is mute.

Originally Posted by Xelathur

Do not use this argument, it is flawed. Flawed beyond oblivion. Now take a minute and think about it. Does CA's historical accuraccy/modelling team work with the AI? - no. So there, your argument is mute.

Give in mate, no matter how many times you point this out, itchy keyboard fingers are ready for more 'sort out the bugs and AI, etc first'

ok i concede that point - if they do have multiple teams then yes i guess it doesnt hurt to bring things like this to their attention.
apologies.

I used to play wargames on tabletop using pennies to represent characters or entire armies. So be thankful you can play a game with thousands of three dimensional figures killing each other.
Just make it playable CA thats what matters.

How long do you think that belt actually lasted while on campaign. It would probably have been rare to actually see anyone with one by the time a battle rolled around, let alone half the other fancy crap that is on their uniforms. If you want accuracy let's have guys in muddy ass uniforms with buttons missing and tattered/torn clothes strolling around, but no everyone is taking it the opposite way and asking why they are not in proper parade uniforms exactly when in battle. War is gritty and dirty, not some lavish parade.

Seriously guys (*ahem* some people in particular) these uniform threads are getting old. I mean a new one is started for almost every new screenshot, and if the uniforms are accurate someone is complaining "omg, the russian chest is the same template as the austrian". Who cares, I'm more concerned on rather or not the AI will fight Napoleonic style than if their guys have a stupid belt or not (which they more than likely would not have worn on the battlefield).