Factions?

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  1. panzerschreck's Avatar

    panzerschreck said:

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    FOR the moment, with the screenshots we are sure that there is:

    little German states
    Prussia
    England
    Russia
    Austria
    France

    for the others: Swedish, dutch, belgian, danish, spanish, portuguese troops we don' t know. They can be included as allied troops with France or England, perhaps...
     
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    TheAussieDigger said:

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    only playable in GC will be the big five as confirmed by the units released today

     
  3. panzerschreck's Avatar

    panzerschreck said:

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    What means GC?
     
  4. TheAussieDigger's Avatar

    TheAussieDigger said:

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    Grand Campaign

    only France is playable in Italy campaign and Egypt campaign

    then in the final campaign across europe

    France
    Great Britain
    Austria
    Russia
    Prussia

    are all playable

     
  5. Ebusitanus's Avatar

    Ebusitanus said:

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    This is truly insulting for a Campaign starting in 1805 and an independent Spanish nation at that time.
    Read a napoleonic first hand account of a Hessian serving under the french flag

    Athenians: For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretenses - either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us- and make a long speech which would not be believed;.......... since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.

    Part of the Melian Dialogue in The History of the Pelopenessian War by Thucydides.
     
  6. TheAussieDigger's Avatar

    TheAussieDigger said:

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    no doubt someone will omd them playable, but I do feel for u

    I always think the more playable factions the better

     
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    -Joker- said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAussieDigger View Post
    no doubt someone will omd them playable, but I do feel for u

    I always think the more playable factions the better
    Yeah people shouldnt need to mod them in
     
  8. Ebusitanus's Avatar

    Ebusitanus said:

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    In 1805 Spain was an independent nation allied to the french but still independent. Not until 1808 was the country occupied while still being formal allies. How will this be done? Hardcode Spain´s side change and turn it into one big revolt nation full of irregular guerrilla units?

    Very very disapointing. I do not expect many sales here in Spain due to this garbage.
    Read a napoleonic first hand account of a Hessian serving under the french flag

    Athenians: For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretenses - either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us- and make a long speech which would not be believed;.......... since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.

    Part of the Melian Dialogue in The History of the Pelopenessian War by Thucydides.
     
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    Ojf said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebusitanus View Post
    In 1805 Spain was an independent nation allied to the french but still independent. Not until 1808 was the country occupied while still being formal allies. How will this be done? Hardcode Spain´s side change and turn it into one big revolt nation full of irregular guerrilla units?

    Very very disapointing. I do not expect many sales here in Spain due to this garbage.

    It won't make a difference
     
  10. Doctr said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebusitanus View Post
    In 1805 Spain was an independent nation allied to the french but still independent. Not until 1808 was the country occupied while still being formal allies. How will this be done? Hardcode Spain´s side change and turn it into one big revolt nation full of irregular guerrilla units?

    Very very disapointing. I do not expect many sales here in Spain due to this garbage.
    Just because you and complain about not being able to play Spain doesn't mean it's going to sell bad in Spain.
     
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    spanish_emperor said:

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    how will they represent guerilla style warfare or will we simply have annoying but easy to kill units around the map to reflect this? Please CA, do something about this
    "we're way way pre-alpha and what that means is there is loads of features not just in terms of the graphics but also in terms of the combat and animations that actually aren't in the game yet.So the final game is actually gonna look way way better than this!” - James Russell, CA
    Just like the elephant animation, this Carthage scenario is actually in the game, it just has a small percantage factor for showing up, that's all...

    Beware of scoundrels


     
  12. panzerschreck's Avatar

    panzerschreck said:

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    I have a look again at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm3yvYXqI8c

    We can see spain at 0.56 (I think). Perhaps there would be spanish troops with it?
     
  13. Ebusitanus's Avatar

    Ebusitanus said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by panzerschreck View Post
    We can see spain at 0.56 (I think). Perhaps there would be spanish troops with it?
    Yes, I´m sure that it will geographically exist and perhaps even furnish some troops because by 1805 it was still very much independent. Yet it will not be playable. I guess french victory conditions will include conquering Spain and besides an increased "rebel" stack aperance, more than other conquerable minor nations, we will also see heavy revolt possibilities in the cities, making heavy garrisoning a must.

    It is very sad that the nation that never surrendered to Napoleon like Austria or Prussia, which never had the chance to rearm, train and gear themselves up like Austria and Prussia could again and again, that brought us Trafalgar, Cape St. Vincent, which had 33 Line regiments in 1808 will not be playable.

    Very sad
    Read a napoleonic first hand account of a Hessian serving under the french flag

    Athenians: For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretenses - either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us- and make a long speech which would not be believed;.......... since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.

    Part of the Melian Dialogue in The History of the Pelopenessian War by Thucydides.
     
  14. klok's Avatar

    klok said:

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    OF course there is no BElgium. It dind't existed in that period
     
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    King Gambrinus said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by klok View Post
    OF course there is no BElgium. It dind't existed in that period



    Batavia was basically most of Belgium. Wallonia was French.


    Spain and Portugal must be included with unique units (Cacedores, Guerrillas). They were key in the Anglo-French hostilities.
     
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    Sneaking Viper said:

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    you also see the italian states and he mentions ottomans as playable.
    Oderint dum metuant




     
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    Sol Invictus said:

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    Yeah I think I read that the Ottomans are playable in the Egyptian Campaign at least but there is so much that is not certain. If the Ottomans are playable in the Egyptian Campaign I would expect them to also be playable in the Mastery of Europe Campaign as well. I hope they are at least.
     
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    Elyrioth said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol Invictus View Post
    Yeah I think I read that the Ottomans are playable in the Egyptian Campaign at least but there is so much that is not certain. If the Ottomans are playable in the Egyptian Campaign I would expect them to also be playable in the Mastery of Europe Campaign as well. I hope they are at least.
    I believe Kieran said you can only play France in the first 2 campaigns.
    The notes on the Imperial Edition do seem to imply that there are only 5 playable faction in total. Also the fact that ALL the elite units are only from these 5 factions seems to back that.
    Na Géanna Fiáine
     
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    Sol Invictus said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyrioth View Post
    I believe Kieran said you can only play France in the first 2 campaigns.
    The notes on the Imperial Edition do seem to imply that there are only 5 playable faction in total. Also the fact that ALL the elite units are only from these 5 factions seems to back that.


    It certainly seems that way but I know I read/heard in an interview that the Otttomans were playable in one of the campaigns. Of course alot of the early info is heresay and rumor. I am fine if just the five major factions are playable as long as CA takes advantage of that fact to really show some love to the individual factions with unique units and interesting missions. I

    thought that we would have more solid info from the horses mouth by now since release is fast approaching. I always get nervous when a developer is vague on key gameplay mechanics and features this close to release. We should not still be guessing about the number of factions and the new supply/attrition features at this point of developement. CA should be shouting this stuff from the rooftops if indeed they have confidence in their own work.
     
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    EmperorBatman999 said:

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    Now I really want on release day for CA to provide us with mod tools for both NTW and ETW. Such limitations infuriate me. All hail the modders, who could make a far better game than CA could ever try doing.
    I feel you, Ebu. I really wanted to play as Spain.