Factions?

FOR the moment, with the screenshots we are sure that there is:

little German states
Prussia
England
Russia
Austria
France

for the others: Swedish, dutch, belgian, danish, spanish, portuguese troops we don' t know. They can be included as allied troops with France or England, perhaps...

only playable in GC will be the big five as confirmed by the units released today

What means GC?

Grand Campaign

only France is playable in Italy campaign and Egypt campaign

then in the final campaign across europe

France
Great Britain
Austria
Russia
Prussia

are all playable

This is truly insulting for a Campaign starting in 1805 and an independent Spanish nation at that time.

no doubt someone will omd them playable, but I do feel for u

I always think the more playable factions the better

Originally Posted by TheAussieDigger

no doubt someone will omd them playable, but I do feel for u

I always think the more playable factions the better

Yeah people shouldnt need to mod them in

In 1805 Spain was an independent nation allied to the french but still independent. Not until 1808 was the country occupied while still being formal allies. How will this be done? Hardcode Spain´s side change and turn it into one big revolt nation full of irregular guerrilla units?

Very very disapointing. I do not expect many sales here in Spain due to this garbage.

Originally Posted by Ebusitanus

In 1805 Spain was an independent nation allied to the french but still independent. Not until 1808 was the country occupied while still being formal allies. How will this be done? Hardcode Spain´s side change and turn it into one big revolt nation full of irregular guerrilla units?

Very very disapointing. I do not expect many sales here in Spain due to this garbage.

It won't make a difference

Originally Posted by Ebusitanus

In 1805 Spain was an independent nation allied to the french but still independent. Not until 1808 was the country occupied while still being formal allies. How will this be done? Hardcode Spain´s side change and turn it into one big revolt nation full of irregular guerrilla units?

Very very disapointing. I do not expect many sales here in Spain due to this garbage.

Just because you and complain about not being able to play Spain doesn't mean it's going to sell bad in Spain.

how will they represent guerilla style warfare or will we simply have annoying but easy to kill units around the map to reflect this? Please CA, do something about this

I have a look again at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm3yvYXqI8c

We can see spain at 0.56 (I think). Perhaps there would be spanish troops with it?

Originally Posted by panzerschreck

We can see spain at 0.56 (I think). Perhaps there would be spanish troops with it?

Yes, I´m sure that it will geographically exist and perhaps even furnish some troops because by 1805 it was still very much independent. Yet it will not be playable. I guess french victory conditions will include conquering Spain and besides an increased "rebel" stack aperance, more than other conquerable minor nations, we will also see heavy revolt possibilities in the cities, making heavy garrisoning a must.

It is very sad that the nation that never surrendered to Napoleon like Austria or Prussia, which never had the chance to rearm, train and gear themselves up like Austria and Prussia could again and again, that brought us Trafalgar, Cape St. Vincent, which had 33 Line regiments in 1808 will not be playable.

Very sad

OF course there is no BElgium. It dind't existed in that period

Originally Posted by klok

OF course there is no BElgium. It dind't existed in that period

Batavia was basically most of Belgium. Wallonia was French.


Spain and Portugal must be included with unique units (Cacedores, Guerrillas). They were key in the Anglo-French hostilities.

you also see the italian states and he mentions ottomans as playable.

Yeah I think I read that the Ottomans are playable in the Egyptian Campaign at least but there is so much that is not certain. If the Ottomans are playable in the Egyptian Campaign I would expect them to also be playable in the Mastery of Europe Campaign as well. I hope they are at least.

Originally Posted by Sol Invictus

Yeah I think I read that the Ottomans are playable in the Egyptian Campaign at least but there is so much that is not certain. If the Ottomans are playable in the Egyptian Campaign I would expect them to also be playable in the Mastery of Europe Campaign as well. I hope they are at least.

I believe Kieran said you can only play France in the first 2 campaigns.
The notes on the Imperial Edition do seem to imply that there are only 5 playable faction in total. Also the fact that ALL the elite units are only from these 5 factions seems to back that.

Originally Posted by Elyrioth

I believe Kieran said you can only play France in the first 2 campaigns.
The notes on the Imperial Edition do seem to imply that there are only 5 playable faction in total. Also the fact that ALL the elite units are only from these 5 factions seems to back that.

It certainly seems that way but I know I read/heard in an interview that the Otttomans were playable in one of the campaigns. Of course alot of the early info is heresay and rumor. I am fine if just the five major factions are playable as long as CA takes advantage of that fact to really show some love to the individual factions with unique units and interesting missions. I

thought that we would have more solid info from the horses mouth by now since release is fast approaching. I always get nervous when a developer is vague on key gameplay mechanics and features this close to release. We should not still be guessing about the number of factions and the new supply/attrition features at this point of developement. CA should be shouting this stuff from the rooftops if indeed they have confidence in their own work.

Now I really want on release day for CA to provide us with mod tools for both NTW and ETW. Such limitations infuriate me. All hail the modders, who could make a far better game than CA could ever try doing.
I feel you, Ebu. I really wanted to play as Spain.