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    Some Conservatives Push a ‘Purity Test’ for GOP Candidates

    By Peter Wallsten

    Conservative Republican Party activists want to withhold money from GOP candidates who stray too far from party orthodoxy.

    Ten Republican National Committee members are distributing a plan to impose a purity test – calling for money to be withheld from anyone who disagrees with conservative principles on more than two of 10 core issues.

    Among the required stances: oppose President Barack Obama’s health care and cap-and-trade proposals as well as his stimulus plan; reject government funding for abortion; vote “no” on legislation to help unions organize; and support keeping the Defense of Marriage Act.

    “The problem is that conservatives have lost trust in the Republican Party that we will govern as conservatives,” said James Bopp Jr., an Indiana lawyer and one of 168 RNC members who will debate the idea during the party’s winter meeting in January. “And I think that loss of trust is warranted to a certain extent because of the fact that we in the final several years of the Bush administration were supporting increased government, earmarks and, ultimately, bailouts.”

    Bopp and other conservatives have tried in the past to convince RNC Chairman Michael Steele to label Obama a “socialist.” The new resolution brings back the ‘s’ word, arguing that, “Republican solidarity in opposition to Obama’s socialist agenda is necessary to preserve the security of our country, our economic and political freedoms, and our way of life.”

    The resolution underscores a simmering tension within the party about how to remake the GOP and regain power in Washington, coming as conservative candidates such as Florida U.S. Senate candidate Marco Rubio, are challenging establishment Republicans viewed as too accommodating to the left.

    Many core conservatives argue that the party has lost elections because it strayed from its ideological foundations, running up deficits during the George W. Bush administration and supporting candidates such as Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, who often sided with Democrats and wound up switching parties. Others, such as Steele, have argued that the party can gain ground by welcoming a wider diversity of viewpoints.

    A spokeswoman for Steele, Gail Gitcho, said it was unclear what the chairman would do about the proposal, but she left the door open to negotiations once the deadline for submissions passes in about a month.

    “At this point, we do not know what resolutions will be submitted, nor what the final language of any resolution ultimately submitted may be,” Gitcho said.

    RNC meetings, traditionally fairly staid affairs focused on mundane rules and convention planning, have become lively in recent years as the party has slipped into minority status. Many committee members are elected by conservative party activists in their home states, and somepushed resolutions in the waning years of the George W. Bush presidency challenging his support for more open immigration laws.

    Organizers of the new purity test said they decided to allow deviation on no more than two issues in deference to the mantra of the late President Ronald Reagan, who, as the resolution states, believed “that someone who agreed with him eight out of 10 times was his friend, not his opponent.”

    Democrats, who have watched their own support from independent voters slip in recent months as public anxiety has grown over Obama’s push for a health-care overhaul, are likely to use the RNC’s debate to paint the Republicans as inhospitable to centrists. Polls, after all, show that those independents losing faith in Democrats are not necessarily gaining faith in the GOP.

    A Democratic Party spokesman, Hari Sevugan, predicted the resolution would “further marginalize” the GOP, and added jokingly: “Do you think they have rules that will allow me to cast a ballot in favor of it?”

    The proposal was distributed to a handful of committee members several weeks ago, but surfaced in the blogosphere on Monday. It appears below:

    Proposed RNC Resolution on Reagan’s Unity Principle for Support of Candidates

    WHEREAS, President Ronald Reagan believed that the Republican Party should support and espouse conservative principles and public policies; and

    WHEREAS, President Ronald Reagan also believed the Republican Party should welcome those with diverse views; and

    WHEREAS, President Ronald Reagan believed, as a result, that someone who agreed with him 8 out of 10 times was his friend, not his opponent; and

    WHEREAS, Republican faithfulness to its conservative principles and public policies and Republican solidarity in opposition to Obama’s socialist agenda is necessary to preserve the security of our country, our economic and political freedoms, and our way of life; and

    WHEREAS, Republican faithfulness to its conservative principles and public policies is necessary to restore the trust of the American people in the Republican Party and to lead to Republican electoral victories; and

    WHEREAS, the Republican National Committee shares President Ronald Reagan’s belief that the Republican Party should espouse conservative principles and public policies and welcome persons of diverse views; and

    WHEREAS, the Republican National Committee desires to implement President Reagan’s Unity Principle for Support of Candidates; and

    WHEREAS, in addition to supporting candidates, the Republican National Committee provides financial support for Republican state and local parties for party building and federal election activities, which benefits all candidates and is not affected by this resolution; and

    THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Republican National Committee identifies ten (10) key public policy positions for the 2010 election cycle, which the Republican National Committee expects its public officials and candidates to support:

    (1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;
    (2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run healthcare;
    (3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;
    (4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;
    (5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;
    (6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;
    (7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;
    (8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;
    (9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing, denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and
    (10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership; and be further

    RESOLVED, that a candidate who disagrees with three or more of the above stated public policy positions of the Republican National Committee, as identified by the voting record, public statements and/or signed questionnaire of the candidate, shall not be eligible for financial support and endorsement by the Republican National Committee; and be further

    RESOLVED, that upon the approval of this resolution the Republican National Committee shall deliver a copy of this resolution to each of Republican members of Congress, all Republican candidates for Congress, as they become known, and to each Republican state and territorial party office.

    Chief Sponsor:
    James Bopp Jr., Indiana
    Sponsors:
    Avie Axdahl, Minnesota
    Donna Cain, Oregon
    Cindy Costa, South Carolina
    Debbie Joslin, Alaska
    Peggy Lambert, Tennessee
    Carolyn McLarty, Oklahoma
    Pete Rickets, Nebraska
    Steve Scheffler, Iowa
    Helen Van Etten, Kansas
    Solomon Yue, Oregon

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/1...tes/tab/print/



    Wow they really want to clean out the RINOS and moderates.


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    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    Some Conservatives Push a ‘Purity Test’ for GOP Candidates

    By Peter Wallsten

    Conservative Republican Party activists want to withhold money from GOP candidates who stray too far from party orthodoxy.

    Ten Republican National Committee members are distributing a plan to impose a purity test – calling for money to be withheld from anyone who disagrees with conservative principles on more than two of 10 core issues.

    Among the required stances: oppose President Barack Obama’s health care and cap-and-trade proposals as well as his stimulus plan; reject government funding for abortion; vote “no” on legislation to help unions organize; and support keeping the Defense of Marriage Act.

    “The problem is that conservatives have lost trust in the Republican Party that we will govern as conservatives,” said James Bopp Jr., an Indiana lawyer and one of 168 RNC members who will debate the idea during the party’s winter meeting in January. “And I think that loss of trust is warranted to a certain extent because of the fact that we in the final several years of the Bush administration were supporting increased government, earmarks and, ultimately, bailouts.”

    Bopp and other conservatives have tried in the past to convince RNC Chairman Michael Steele to label Obama a “socialist.” The new resolution brings back the ‘s’ word, arguing that, “Republican solidarity in opposition to Obama’s socialist agenda is necessary to preserve the security of our country, our economic and political freedoms, and our way of life.”

    The resolution underscores a simmering tension within the party about how to remake the GOP and regain power in Washington, coming as conservative candidates such as Florida U.S. Senate candidate Marco Rubio, are challenging establishment Republicans viewed as too accommodating to the left.

    Many core conservatives argue that the party has lost elections because it strayed from its ideological foundations, running up deficits during the George W. Bush administration and supporting candidates such as Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, who often sided with Democrats and wound up switching parties. Others, such as Steele, have argued that the party can gain ground by welcoming a wider diversity of viewpoints.

    A spokeswoman for Steele, Gail Gitcho, said it was unclear what the chairman would do about the proposal, but she left the door open to negotiations once the deadline for submissions passes in about a month.

    “At this point, we do not know what resolutions will be submitted, nor what the final language of any resolution ultimately submitted may be,” Gitcho said.

    RNC meetings, traditionally fairly staid affairs focused on mundane rules and convention planning, have become lively in recent years as the party has slipped into minority status. Many committee members are elected by conservative party activists in their home states, and somepushed resolutions in the waning years of the George W. Bush presidency challenging his support for more open immigration laws.

    Organizers of the new purity test said they decided to allow deviation on no more than two issues in deference to the mantra of the late President Ronald Reagan, who, as the resolution states, believed “that someone who agreed with him eight out of 10 times was his friend, not his opponent.”

    Democrats, who have watched their own support from independent voters slip in recent months as public anxiety has grown over Obama’s push for a health-care overhaul, are likely to use the RNC’s debate to paint the Republicans as inhospitable to centrists. Polls, after all, show that those independents losing faith in Democrats are not necessarily gaining faith in the GOP.

    A Democratic Party spokesman, Hari Sevugan, predicted the resolution would “further marginalize” the GOP, and added jokingly: “Do you think they have rules that will allow me to cast a ballot in favor of it?”

    The proposal was distributed to a handful of committee members several weeks ago, but surfaced in the blogosphere on Monday. It appears below:

    Proposed RNC Resolution on Reagan’s Unity Principle for Support of Candidates

    WHEREAS, President Ronald Reagan believed that the Republican Party should support and espouse conservative principles and public policies; and

    WHEREAS, President Ronald Reagan also believed the Republican Party should welcome those with diverse views; and

    WHEREAS, President Ronald Reagan believed, as a result, that someone who agreed with him 8 out of 10 times was his friend, not his opponent; and

    WHEREAS, Republican faithfulness to its conservative principles and public policies and Republican solidarity in opposition to Obama’s socialist agenda is necessary to preserve the security of our country, our economic and political freedoms, and our way of life; and

    WHEREAS, Republican faithfulness to its conservative principles and public policies is necessary to restore the trust of the American people in the Republican Party and to lead to Republican electoral victories; and

    WHEREAS, the Republican National Committee shares President Ronald Reagan’s belief that the Republican Party should espouse conservative principles and public policies and welcome persons of diverse views; and

    WHEREAS, the Republican National Committee desires to implement President Reagan’s Unity Principle for Support of Candidates; and

    WHEREAS, in addition to supporting candidates, the Republican National Committee provides financial support for Republican state and local parties for party building and federal election activities, which benefits all candidates and is not affected by this resolution; and

    THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Republican National Committee identifies ten (10) key public policy positions for the 2010 election cycle, which the Republican National Committee expects its public officials and candidates to support:

    (1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;
    (2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run healthcare;
    (3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;
    (4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;
    (5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;
    (6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;
    (7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;
    (8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;
    (9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing, denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and
    (10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership; and be further

    RESOLVED, that a candidate who disagrees with three or more of the above stated public policy positions of the Republican National Committee, as identified by the voting record, public statements and/or signed questionnaire of the candidate, shall not be eligible for financial support and endorsement by the Republican National Committee; and be further

    RESOLVED, that upon the approval of this resolution the Republican National Committee shall deliver a copy of this resolution to each of Republican members of Congress, all Republican candidates for Congress, as they become known, and to each Republican state and territorial party office.

    Chief Sponsor:
    James Bopp Jr., Indiana
    Sponsors:
    Avie Axdahl, Minnesota
    Donna Cain, Oregon
    Cindy Costa, South Carolina
    Debbie Joslin, Alaska
    Peggy Lambert, Tennessee
    Carolyn McLarty, Oklahoma
    Pete Rickets, Nebraska
    Steve Scheffler, Iowa
    Helen Van Etten, Kansas
    Solomon Yue, Oregon

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/1...tes/tab/print/



    Wow they really want to clean out the RINOS and moderates.

    As much of a liberal as I am , I hate to see a the GOP completely implode or become totally marginalized. The only thing worse than a two party system is a one party system.
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    I am quite disappointed in the direction the Republican party is taking. Whatever your political leanings, the voices of the Republican party used to be learned and respectable people. People like Newt Gingrich who had a PhD in history, Bob Dole who had a law degree, hell even Bush was a Yale man.

    You can stick the current big three voices of the republican party (Palin, Beck and Limbaugh) in a room and all you come out with is one BA in communications from Idaho University, two careers in sportscasting, two cases of chronic substance abuse, one third place finish in the Miss Alaska pagent, and one psychological break down.

    I really am buying into the idea that Sarah Palin has become a cancer on the the whole party, and that ignorance and small mindedness are becoming the core party platforms.

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    Can we call a GOP Inquisition to purge it of its heretics and nonbelievers?




    EDIT: Sorry. You know you're a nerd when Dawn of War is the first thing that comes to mind when you see Purity Test.
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    If the Democrats had a "Democrat Test" and wouldn't fund any Democrat who didn't support gay rights and freedom of choice, would Republicans ever shut up about how the Democrats are Nazis?

    Yawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian View Post
    If the Democrats had a "Democrat Test" and wouldn't fund any Democrat who didn't support gay rights and freedom of choice, would Republicans ever shut up about how the Democrats are Nazis?

    Yawn.
    The Republicans will never shut up about how the Democrats are Nazis because the Democrats are Nazis. I'm not a Republican, by the way, so I am completely immune from criticism on this issue.

    I think Glenn Beck and his deranged fellows are going to completely de-cajone the Republicans. Though I do believe Snowe is an evil menace (ironic, because she's an Orthodox Christian) and Gingrich has turned into a metaphor-slinging climate freak, they are still not as bad as mainline Democrats, in my opinion. To have TODAY's Republican Party in power, without any so-called "Purity Tests", would be better than having today's Democratic Party in power, without any "Purity Tests". Beck is just becoming a Ron Paul-obsessive that wants to end everything the Republicans did and do stand for, and make it more reactionary (in a sort-of quasi radical sense). Palin is really, really uninspiring, and I hope to God that someone else is the candidate for the Republicans in 2012. Capitalist, abortion-hating, gay-rights-bashing evil Christian she may be, but ... dayum, she's BORING!

    The Beckites are going to ruin the Republicans with endless joke-worthy things like this. It's almost as if Beck is an agent implanted by the Democrats to destabilize the right... .... !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterlight View Post
    The Republicans will never shut up about how the Democrats are Nazis because the Democrats are Nazis.

    really, I haven't heard that all members of the republican and liberterian parties had been rounded up for mass execution as enemies of the state. If they haven't then your staement is a slanderous lie.

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    Eh, the two parties go through these in-fighting's and soul searches when they lose a lot of power and influence, try to shake things up a bit or at the very least grab the spotlight a few times. We'll see if it's still around come 2011-2012 when it's actually important for them to rally. If it's still going on as it is now then yeah, the GOP is in deep .

    Out of curiosity, when exactly did "victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges" become a core principle of the Republican party? Seems like these are more of a flavor of the month thing then actual principles and beliefs.
    Last edited by Cougar109; November 25, 2009 at 02:33 AM.

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    hahahaahah!!!

    finally!!

    the crazy republicans are FINISHED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sipahizade View Post
    hahahaahah!!!

    finally!!

    the crazy republicans are FINISHED
    Wtf? You realize this was a suggestion right? Like...it hasnt been done.
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    That picture is hilarious even though I'm a proud member of the Grand 'Old Party. Although equating the GOP to the end of the French Revolution is probably not the most historically accurate analogy
    Let me persuade you with my powerful logic skills.

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    Does this mean they're going to lynch the only real Republican they have, Ron Paul?
    Last edited by Enemy of the State; November 25, 2009 at 04:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Leary View Post
    Does this mean they're going to lynch the only real Republican they have, Ron Paul?
    I'd edit your statement to say, "Does this mean they're going to lynch the only real Conservative they have, Ron Paul?"

    I make this distinction because the republicans aren't conservative, they're neoconservative (e.g. reagan lackeys).

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    Is it bad that the only think that really disturbs me about the whole list is the continual reference to 'Obama'? You may not respect the man, that's your prerogative, but at least show respect for the office... that's President Obama to you.

    Other than that, if these members of GOP wants to try this approach, that's their decision; it'll be interesting to watch. If it passes, it will either strengthen them or they will discover that the views they hold are no longer what a majority of American's hold.

    All political parties go through periods of fragmentation, revolution, and renewal. Just look at the current state of Australia's opposition party, yikes!
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    If republicans can get every republican aqnd and half the independents in every election - they loose.
    If republicans get every conservative and half the independents in every election - they win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Devil's Sergeant View Post
    If republicans can get every republican aqnd and half the independents in every election - they loose.
    If republicans get every conservative and half the independents in every election - they win.
    As long as you can gaze out over any Republican meeting, rally, or convention and see nothing but lily-white faces they will lose.Their platform and membership is not representative of the United States in 2010, or of its role in the world of today. The vitriole thrown out by their leaders (eg, Palin) is reflective of reality television, and not leadership.
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    its time for Libertarian party to conquer what is theirs! oh wait...

    Throw away all your newspapers!
    Most of you are Libertarians, you just havent figured it out yet.

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    This party is gonna go down in flames if it keeps it up.
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    The "leadership" of the Republican Party is full of dumbasses. Until Limdouche and Glenn "Crybaby" Beck get marginalized and Palin gets sent back to wherever she is from the Republican Party will not win.

    Hell because of them I'm thinking of leaving the party and going independent.
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    Further proof that the Republican party simply can no longer win elections. The ideas that it stands for no longer have following. McCain's whole presidential campaign was based on him being a 'maverick', ie, not a standard republican

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