Attack of the Clones army again! again... :/

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  1. KLAssurbanipal's Avatar

    KLAssurbanipal said:

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    I see that CA continues to repeat mistakes. Promised that it will face more per one unit. Units are still clones army. When I wrote about this fact a few weeks ago Jack_Lusted assured me that it was old and the new screens will be new units, historical uniforms, more faces etc.. He assured me that the new screens soon, with the new uniforms system. Today, his team released the latest screenshots. I can see is still the same error as in the previous game. Still there are 2 faces on units.

    Example:




    Clones are attacking here! and these clones are unhistorical lance....




    The same was true in the case of the previous game:

    Quote Originally Posted by King Louise Assurbanipal View Post
    I'd like to ask CA to fix the following bug. Soldiers in game got only 2 different face skins even on the highest details. I'm pretty sure that is a bug because I've checked the .dds textures files and every unit has 4 different face skins. Unfortunately the game uses only first and second face. Here are the examples:

    Please notice that we can see in game only faces #1 and #2 in the game whereas number 3 and 4 are only in the textures files. The game engine doesn't allow regiments to use 4 different faces. Because of this bug, many people call ETW "a clone army". It also takes away much of diversification from ETW comparing to MTW2 which had 6 different faces per regiment. Please, fix it in the next patch.




    Regards,
    KLA
    Last edited by KLAssurbanipal; November 24, 2009 at 08:38 PM.
     
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    Boztorgai_Khan said:

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    True, STOP the Clones



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  3. Ahiga said:

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    I understand they'll say its because those screenshots might be old but I am still worried about it. And also the freaking Boar Spear. I'd kill for a good looking lance.
     
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    Mythic_Commodore said:

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    In that first screen you posted, note how the two sets of soldiers are in the exact same stance. It seems like whoever made that bit of promotional material just decided to copy the image of the two soldiers, shrink it, and paste it in the background. So, it may be a bad screenshot, but it does not necessarily mean clone faces at all.

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    Banana Jelly said:

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    LOL

    I see it now

    KLA: "You said you was going to change the clones from ETW"
    CA: "I tried, those were the old screenshots"
    CA: "Wait till you see the new ones"
    KLA: " *Opens up his browser and searches for new screenies of NTW"
    KLA: Omg
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    "
    CA: "Thats an old screeny, got into the new screeny thread by mistake."
    KLA: "All the 'new' screenies are clones! "
    CA (Employee, named Fred): "Guy's he complain's to much, what we gonna do?"
    CA (Other representative) : "Hope Fred, we only have Hope..."
    Last edited by Banana Jelly; November 24, 2009 at 08:59 PM.
     
  6. KLAssurbanipal's Avatar

    KLAssurbanipal said:

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    On the first screenshots of the ETW I saw that they were clones. CA assured me that this is just the early version and the clones will not be in the future. But as they released the full version were still clones. When NTW was similar. They asserted a few weeks ago that the most recent screenshots will not be clones. Today presented the latest screenshots and they are still clones. I do not already believe them.
    Last edited by KLAssurbanipal; November 24, 2009 at 09:01 PM.
     
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    Hilarion said:

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    Unfortunately, chances are NTW will be the same as ETW in regards to clone armies.
     
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    shireknight said:

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    Clones yes and as Jack is no doubt bored to death of saying by now those are placeholder units.

    Look at this picture and count the faces!!!

     
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    Humble Warrior said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by shireknight View Post
    Clones yes and as Jack is no doubt bored to death of saying by now those are placeholder units.

    Look at this picture and count the faces!!!


    Is this part of your helping CA to sell NTW now after the farce that was ETW which you also helped propaganderised and banned many people who spoke truth about the faults of ETW and Steam-Only?

    I`m onto you.
     
  10. nameless said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humble Warrior View Post
    Is this part of your helping CA to sell NTW now after the farce that was ETW which you also helped propaganderised and banned many people who spoke truth about the faults of ETW and Steam-Only?

    I`m onto you.
    Damn. Shire get out of here now!

    Though I should point out that Shire is backing himself up with evidence. Not to mention that TWCenter is really just a tiny community of the total war fanbase (not to mention most people here I bet don't even play or care about the game to begin with)
     
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    Cromagnon2 said:

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    Good finding Assurbanipal

    It is a shame we play with clone armies while there are two additional face textures going to waste.

    I am also concerned about those unhistorical spear units, Unless someone can confirm this "Towarczys" unit, I guess i have to wait buying it until a good historical mod is out (if possible).
     
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    Cromagnon2 said:

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    Doesn't the guy in the back have a bigger mustache?

    At least the artillery crew look different (uniform) than the line infantry.
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  13. KLAssurbanipal's Avatar

    KLAssurbanipal said:

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    One of these guys (the big mustaches) is artillery officer
    Other have 2 faces: light mustaches and without
     
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    Banana Jelly said:

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    Wow CA is making plenty of units with a beard and a moustache. I bet all the creators have beards and mustaches, thats why.
     
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    The two in front seem similar, tho the one to the left looks like having bigger sidebeards Anyhow i will be more concerned with how many men into the battle i may bring then the detail.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monopolist View Post
    Wow CA is making plenty of units with a beard and a moustache. I bet all the creators have beards and mustaches, thats why.
    Certain regiments only enlisted men with a beard
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    Invictus XII said:

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    Ummm, big mistake, it still is over 64 faces, just for every type of unit their are like two faces, look at the whole entire game and their are hearps of different faces all over in different units. Their is still clone units, just not clone armies.
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  17. setep said:

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    What makes you think these aren't just placeholders, out of curiosity?
     
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    KLAssurbanipal said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by setep View Post
    What makes you think these aren't just placeholders, out of curiosity?
    CA published these screenshots in official website yesterday. 2 months to release this game...
     
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    crazypeon said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Louise Assurbanipal View Post
    CA published these screenshots in official website yesterday. 2 months to release this game...
    Just because they put these shots on their website today, doesn't mean they are final...
    Beside that, it's 3 months, not 2, IF they don't delay it.

    And i thought i was too critical with CA...

    Just wait for the damn game. If it will be the same in the final game with all of ETW flaws, don't buy it (atleast i won't). Simple as that. Complaining now about this doesn't help you, because CA will not make any big changes in the game anymore, if they really release it in 3 months. 2 Month beta testing is minimum, plus the game will be in Gold status about two weeks before the release.
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    KLAssurbanipal said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazypeon View Post
    Just because they put these shots on their website today, doesn't mean they are final...
    Beside that, it's 3 months, not 2, IF they don't delay it.

    And i thought i was too critical with CA...

    Just wait for the damn game. If it will be the same in the final game with all of ETW flaws, don't buy it (atleast i won't). Simple as that. Complaining now about this doesn't help you, because CA will not make any big changes in the game anymore, if they really release it in 3 months. 2 Month beta testing is minimum, plus the game will be in Gold status about two weeks before the release.

    Two monts because we have the end of November now

    Models from Rusichi TW (Medieval 2: TW) look better than Towarczys unit. They have more details...