What ever happened to the Bush n Cheney impeachment?

[ginge51]

It was a few months back, going good, then all of a sudden.
Nothing?
It's all covered up and forgotten once again.
How come this happened?

[horatius]

Impeachment, and subsequent conviction, is about removing an elected official from office. Bush and Cheney are no longer in office, therefore impeachment is pointless, except to possibly prevent them from holding future office.

[Teutonic Joe]

there was a impeachment....?
sources?

[ginge51]

Ok then seeing how he ain't in 'power' no more.
What about all the crimes they done?
What about all the investigations on crimes they made while in office?
Why have they all suddenly stopped?
Why is he (as being the guy with power aledgedly).
Why is he immune for punishment?
As

[Cougar109]

There was no real crime and the only thing Bush is guilty of is being a God awful President and bringing in incompetent advisers. Sadly that's not a punishable offense

[Hunter Makoy]

It was a few months back, going good, then all of a sudden.
Nothing?
It's all covered up and forgotten once again.
How come this happened?

Well its about 11 months too late to impeach, sorry. As far as any criminal prosecution, it was never taken real seriously, and was never "going good" lol (unless you call a bunch of crazies like Code Pink running around with blood on their hands yelling "war criminal" at people 'going good'). There were a few people in congress pushing for it and Obama said "no we're not gonna do that". And that was pretty much the end of it.

As Courgar said, you can't send someone to prison simply for being stupid.

Sorry.

[justicar5]

Well its about 11 months too late to impeach, sorry. As far as any criminal prosecution, it was never taken real seriously, and was never "going good" lol (unless you call a bunch of crazies like Code Pink running around with blood on their hands yelling "war criminal" at people 'going good'). There were a few people in congress pushing for it and Obama said "no we're not gonna do that". And that was pretty much the end of it.

As Courgar said, you can't send someone to prison simply for being stupid.

Sorry.

oh so torture isn't a crime? Deliberatly lying to congress about WMDs isn't a crime? Insider dealing with oil firms isn't a crime? Ordering chemical weapon attacks (white phospourous isn't a crime? Starting an agressive war isn't a crime? What is a crime as mass murder torture and theft appear not to be.

[tristram1]

If I remember correctly, Kucinich was really pressing hard for impeachment. Unfortunately, the Democratic party leadership was against the whole idea. They told Kucinich that if there were an impeachment hearing nothing defamatory could be said about the president. Originally I thought this was rational, but it actually meant that the word impeachment (and other such words) couldn't actually be used . technically, a case could be made, but how can you possibly convict someone of a crime without suggesting that they committed that crime? absolutely absurd. this is akin to prosecuting a murderer without actually implying the criminal committed murder. sooooo because the possibility of a successful impeachment was nil, kucinich dropped the whole thing.

so, in a brief paragraph, that's what happened with the whole impeachment thing.

[S.L.I.G]

And before anyone says "but all clinton did to get impeached was a bj!"...he got impeached cause' he lied under oath, which IS illegal.

[Bovril]

No US administration is going to allow Bush or Cheney to be convicted. The precedent is far too dangerous. Obama has almost caused a de facto state of war within Pakistan. I doubt he'd be too keen on impeaching his predecessors for things he's not so far from doing himself.

[WrathofTulkas]

It was a few months back, going good, then all of a sudden.
Nothing?
It's all covered up and forgotten once again.
How come this happened?

LOL! Like everyone said its far too late to impeach Bush... and it was never "going good"
There were a couple DB's in congress wanting it.... Bush never did anything illegal (as far as we know).
Do some people think he did? Yes. Do they matter? Not really...
Nobody is covering anything up... Mr. Obama is trying to "forget" it all because if he did try to prosecute Bush and his advisors, who will stop our next President from prosecuting Mr. Obama? Its silly really...

[ginge51]

LOL! Like everyone said its far too late to impeach Bush... and it was never "going good"
There were a couple DB's in congress wanting it.... Bush never did anything illegal (as far as we know).
Do some people think he did? Yes. Do they matter? Not really...
Nobody is covering anything up... Mr. Obama is trying to "forget" it all because if he did try to prosecute Bush and his advisors, who will stop our next President from prosecuting Mr. Obama? Its silly really...

That is just like giving somebody immunity powers where they can wave there magic wands in any possible way and they get away with a slap on the rist even thought they have just submitted millions of poor people to death.
Why shouldn't they get prosecuted?
They have done wrong.
They are not above the law are they?
What makes them different for the ordinary guy on the street when they do a crime?
They get punished.
Your type of thinking is what causes these sorts of problems in the 1st place.

i think it's a great idea, makes presidents think in the future before violating international law
puts a curb on power,
and "we" do call it corruption; turnign a blind eye to a crime being committed, or playing the lawyer to pretend a crime hasnt taken place when it so obviously has, is a form of corruption

Someone finally talks sense.

...when was impeaching or arresting Bush and Cheney ever close to happening?

Well that guy in congress made a bill about it did he not?
I'm English so do not know all the s in the senate except the only good 1 Ron Paul.
All the others just piss in a bucket and don't give a about there people and country.

I keep meaning to upload the video, but conservative author Sam Tanenhaus makes the point that Bush certainly good have been impeached. I forget the specifics. He also reminds us that in the last 30 years, three other Presidents could have, as well.

And why wasn't they?
Then done exttremly bad crimes and caused one hell of a suffering to whosever people they offended.
They need to be stripped of power.
They should not be allowed to willynilly do what ever the they want.
They destroy families, millions of peoples lives by there act.
What about all the American/english and all the other soldiers that have lost there lives?
They went on a lie.
Is this acceptable?
Wtf is wrong with people these days.
Why is it one law for us and one law for them?
Because they are richer then the average Joe.
they shouldn't have immunity from whatever they do.
That causes secrecy like the banking heist we have just had and no doub't will get again soon.
And finding out the act they done was a lie is just so beyond criminal.
They should get the death penalty.
Never mind prison.

[Exarch]

well if not impeachment then at the very least war crimes and for invading a soverign nation
dick cheney's tacit endorsement of torture should definitely be looked into

[motiv-8]

No sitting President will ever allow a former President to be sent to court to face criminal charges. If it didn't happen to Nixon, it's certainly not going to happen to Bush or Cheney.

[Exarch]

No sitting President will ever allow a former President to be sent to court to face criminal charges. If it didn't happen to Nixon, it's certainly not going to happen to Bush or Cheney.

we call that corruption

[motiv-8]

we call that corruption

No, "we" don't, "we" call it pragmatism. A government in which presidents leaving office are prosecuted by the incoming administration leads to a rapidly deteriorating situation and goes nowhere good fast.

[Exarch]

No, "we" don't, "we" call it pragmatism. A government in which presidents leaving office are prosecuted by the incoming administration leads to a rapidly deteriorating situation and goes nowhere good fast.

i think it's a great idea, makes presidents think in the future before violating international law
puts a curb on power,
and "we" do call it corruption; turnign a blind eye to a crime being committed, or playing the lawyer to pretend a crime hasnt taken place when it so obviously has, is a form of corruption

[s.rwitt]

well if not impeachment then at the very least war crimes and for invading a soverign nation
dick cheney's tacit endorsement of torture should definitely be looked into

Neither one of those violated law. Bush was authorized by congress and dick cheney was the VICE President. His endorsing waterboarding really didn't have much to do with waterboarding being used (on THREE PEOPLE).

[Ænema]

If anything we should Impeach Obama since he's continuing the policies that ole Bush brought into place. People were just so shocked and trying to piece together what really happened.

[Admiral Piett]

Bush and just about all of cabinet violated the law and could have been indicted. But the American people and the Justice system simply is too weak to have bothered.

There's no way Obama could do it now without jeopardizing his reach across the aisle crap.