Any way of bringing legal action against Sega/CA?

Thread: Any way of bringing legal action against Sega/CA?

  1. hellas1 said:

    Default Any way of bringing legal action against Sega/CA?

    Hi all,

    I don't know about you but IF the same BAI and other issues are found in NTW and are NOT resolved
    through normal means, How & Can we do something legally about it?

    Thanks,
    hellas1
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    Akhil_The_Great said:

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    If we complain to CEO in Japan he will take action, back in the old days Honda was crap, but when CEO found out that people in north America thought that, he changed everything, heads were rolled. and today Honda has best quality

    http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/i...ate/index.html
    the CEO is Hajime Satomi Send him a e-mail, Japanese People have High honor and ethics on terms of quality, Some CEOs commit sucide when they have brought Dishonor to their company
    Last edited by Astaroth; November 27, 2009 at 11:09 AM. Reason: merged double post
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    erasmus777 said:

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    What exactly are you going to sue them for?
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    johncage said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by erasmus777 View Post
    What exactly are you going to sue them for?
    the only thing i could think of is maybe something along the lines of false advertisement.
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    AngryTitusPullo said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellas1 View Post
    Hi all,

    I don't know about you but IF the same BAI and other issues are found in NTW and are NOT resolved
    through normal means, How & Can we do something legally about it?

    Thanks,
    hellas1
    You'll save more money by not buying NTW rather than buying it and want to sue SEGA/CA if the game did not meet your expectation.


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    hitokiri2486 said:

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    Yeah, this thread is pointless, SEGA/CA would only laugh at you. Heck, I'm laughing at you. Like LestaT said, just don't buy the next game.
    Let me persuade you with my powerful logic skills.

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  7. nameless said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akhil_The_Great View Post
    http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/i...ate/index.html
    the CEO is Hajime Satomi Send him a e-mail, Japanese People have High honor and ethics on terms of quality, Some CEOs commit sucide when they have brought Dishonor to their company
    Dude I'd pay to see that happen

    That would be worth watching

    Yeah, this thread is pointless, SEGA/CA would only laugh at you. Heck, I'm laughing at you. Like LestaT said, just don't buy the next game.
    Most of these threads are pointless, they hold themselves on such a high stand and preach yet they never do anything about it because they're "too scared"

    Funny though that they think they are important.

    Hi all,

    I don't know about you but IF the same BAI and other issues are found in NTW and are NOT resolved
    through normal means, How & Can we do something legally about it?

    Thanks,
    hellas1
    For starters,

    I'm assuming you live in North America in which you can basically sue anyone for anything so you don't need proof of any binding contract between yourself and CA.

    Next step is to find a lawyer. If you can't find one, then you can represent yourself.

    Next step I suppose is take it to the judge and see what happens.

    Of course if you really were going to do it you'd have already done it yourself but you wont' anyways.
  8. Coffee-Fuelled Curmudgeon said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    Dude I'd pay to see that happen

    That would be worth watching
    To say that about suicide and wish death upon someone is a truly revolting and contemptible action.


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    Tim_Ward said:

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    Legal action on what grounds, exactly? "Bad AI" is not an actionable offense, FYI.
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  10. DUFFMAN said:

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    Why are you speaking of legal action when the game has not even been released yet? And why would you even want to do this? The chance of being successful is not a very big one when you start to complain about the battle AI in front of the judge. If you are suspicious about a game that hasn't been released yet and talking about the possibility of legal action, then just don't buy the game, it's simple.
  11. hellas1 said:

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    Hi all,

    I WILL write the CEO a letter. We'll see what HE says.

    Thanks,
    hellas1
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    Humble Warrior said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellas1 View Post
    Hi all,

    I WILL write the CEO a letter. We'll see what HE says.

    Thanks,
    hellas1
    This is actually a very good first step and works more often than people think. The contact addresses of these people are easy to find. Just be to the point, express your great unhappiness but do not insult. Ignore the naysayers as they love to knock people down, it`s all they can do. We can only try where others don`t.

    I will do one myself and aim it to Empires(and their use of Steam-Only).
    Last edited by Humble Warrior; November 24, 2009 at 05:23 PM.
  13. nameless said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellas1 View Post
    Hi all,

    I WILL write the CEO a letter. We'll see what HE says.

    Thanks,
    hellas1
    Keep us informed yo.

    This is actually a very good first step and works more often than people think. The contact addresses of these people are easy to find. Just be to the point, express your great unhappiness but do not insult. Ignore the naysayers as they love to knock people down, it`s all they can do. We can only try where others don`t.
    So why don't YOU do something then instead of rambling around? At least Hellas1 decided to do something. All you do is just go around yelling and screaming at the others who call your bluffs.
  14. hellas1 said:

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    Hi all,

    I've just sent 2 inquiries (Complaints rather ) regarding the screwed upness of ETW through Sega's own website.

    I just finished writing out a letter for the CEO as well.

    If these CA employees won't do or say anything more about OUR concerns and money spent towards ETW, to the top of the company we should go.

    Peace out,
    hellas1
    Last edited by hellas1; November 24, 2009 at 07:02 PM.
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    Chuffy said:

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    TWC really is the worst TW site around.
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    Humble Warrior said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    Keep us informed yo.



    So why don't YOU do something then instead of rambling around? At least Hellas1 decided to do something. All you do is just go around yelling and screaming at the others who call your bluffs.
    And how do YOu know that i didn`t already DO something like this very early on? I am now helping helios with encouragement and will even try again, though I will probably be ignored again.

    Now, instead of being a hipocrite, YOu go and write a complaint letter too as you have complained about the game yourself in the past instead of trying to lecture me like you know what you`re talking about.
  17. nameless said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humble Warrior View Post
    And how do YOu know that i didn`t already DO something like this very early on? I am now helping helios with encouragement and will even try again, though I will probably be ignored again.
    Well then too bad.

    Now, instead of being a hipocrite, YOu go and write a complaint letter too as you have complained about the game yourself in the past instead of trying to lecture me like you know what you`re talking about.
    This is hilarious, I'll give you a rep for the laughs. Exactly how am I a hypocrite? I don't have any major issues with ETW.

    I am a consumer, therefore, I am human and will have complaints one way or the other. I bought Assassin's Creed 1 and I regret buying that as well as Sins of a Solar Empire, etc.

    I bought ETW and yes I do have complaints as well as most people on this board (Even IGN and gamespot had complaints about the game as well but they gave it a review and explained what was good and what was bad)but not to the extent that we'll go on some ridiculous crusade against some "satanic" corporation nor are we actually whining every single detail. I have already thrown ideas for you guys yet none of you have the guts to actually do anything.

    It's simple, product no good? Don't buy it. I'm on the fence with Assassin's Creed 2 simply because I hated Assassin's Creed for reasons which I don't need to post here.

    So why do I need to do something? Sure I complained but they are minor to me and not worth the effort. You seem to be deluding yourself that I am pissed off at ETW as much as you are but I'm not. I will buy NTW when it comes out but it'll be the standard version unless my local retailers can give me a good price on the Imperial version.
  18. Tiberius Tosi said:

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    Sue a company for having two "bad" games, that is hardly a case in court. Write a letter or something, CA has broken absoultely no laws nor done anything to be sued.
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    Abspara said:

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    As vocal and angry I've been about the lies and deceptive practices from CA and SEGA regarding ETW's release, I can't really see any legal merits that would be worthwhile to pursue. Really, the biggest way to send a message to CA about this release would be through the Internet. If some important sites/blogs who were not on the payroll of SEGAs advertising dollar discussed and presented the past and current issues with ETW, you had better believe CA would fix the issues. Why? Well because the published word from credible sources is damaging to shareholder profits.

    At the end of the day, making a statement through your wallet is probably just as good. CA may have made short term profits but if enough people cautiously approach NTW, that may be impactful.

    Personally I've tried several times to contact CA directly with constructive letters, but they went ignored. Not even a canned response. Their smug elitism and disregard for customer service is sickening.
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    SunZuu said:

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    Surely you don't need to sue the company.