Question to HCS Team: do you want to release this mod one day?

[Big Pacha]

That's a simple question. Actually I have strong doubts about the will of your team to release this mod for the public (us) one day.

I explain myself: for YEARS, even way before I was a TWC member, I've seen tons of super-cool PREVIEWS, all these polls, discussions, "marketing" stuff, etc. + you guys enjoying the betas & playing battles, etc.

Two Years ago, (yes folks!) I downloaded, installed and played an early "pirate" version of this mod, released by a french dissident of your Team. You know who/what I'm talking about. Although unfinished (Beta v.) It was fully playable I had great fun with, but I wanted the real thing = your "finished" version, at least a 1.0 or even a public Beta.

Now, I don't want to raise sh... about that, but that almost depresses me to see all this great stuff, and NOTHING really coming out for the public. So, I wonder if you actually want to make a release one day or just keep it for yourselves.

Please, no "technical" BS answer telling me It's not possible cuz I won't buy it. I played the "pirate beta" long ago...

I write that with the best intentions, not to raise hell but because like thousands of players I've expected this mod, know you could release a 1.0. but just don't + I hope you will have the humility (a proof of intelligence BTW) to realize that It's time to end the cool previews and release something real.

Regards & Respect,

Big P

[Rhodian]

Well, I personally think that they don't want to rush and make mistakes
so that the finished version will be perfect, fully playable without problems and has awesome skins without needing to make updates that may make the previous savegames of yours
useless.

btw As the other topics like this, it is surely going to close.

[Thasitis]

hmm i dont know why you every day make a thread when the mod is playable

starlight told us that february/march a beta is coming so where is the problem ???

[Big Pacha]

Well, I personally think that they don't want to rush and make mistakes
so that the finished version will be perfect, fully playable without problems and has awesome skins without needing to make updates that may make the previous savegames of yours
useless.

btw As the other topics like this, it is surely going to close.

Ooh come on! A mod is never perfect, not even a vanilla game (hence the patches) and if you wait for perfect you'll never see anything coming. "Perfect is the enemy of Good" (proverb). My whole point was to make them realize that.

As I said I've played an enjoyable "pirate" Beta from an ex-team member. TWO YEARS AGO. Not two weeks or two months!

hmm i dont know why you every day make a thread when the mod is playable

starlight told us that february/march a beta is coming so where is the problem ???

The problem is, my dear, that we had this kind of annoucement so many times that I just don't believe it. I think they honestly mean to do it, but in the end they won't, as always!
... but I hope this post will motivate them to prove me wrong (I'm so manipulative, )

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but as long as I've been waiting for this mod (2+ years now), I've never had anything but the best of confidence in those working on it, both in regards to the previous teams as well as the current one, that they do indeed want to release the mod. But the thing about it is that they don't want to release an unfinished product, which I agree with and support completely.

The current team has made a lot of rapid progress over the last few months and I personally believe that a release is closer than ever.

Jarlaxe and team, I have complete and unconditional faith in you guys and believe we'll all be rampaging across Greece sooner than ever.

Just my $0.02.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing their work, I think It's great! Otherwise I won't spend time here to make these points. It's about the method & some (IMO) wrong ideas about "perfection".
Anyway. Kissing feet is useless, cracking the whip is more efficient believe mu exp
+ Of course It's closer than ever! Just like this everyday is the last day of the rest of our lives. See what I mean? + a mod, or a game, is ALWAYS unfinished. That also means It's perfectible. Otherwise, we would have never seen RTR, IB, ROP etc. "Perfect" is an illusion lured by pride, as IRL for so more important things, BTW.

Any Team reaction? But please not the (IMO) false & biased "Perfect mod" point that I just took out (not to say debunked). I know you guys think you're right but... you're not! Look at all other mods that came out.

[Spartan198]

That's a simple question. Actually I have strong doubts about the will of your team to release this mod for the public (us) one day.

I explain myself: for YEARS, even way before I was a TWC member, I've seen tons of super-cool PREVIEWS, all these polls, discussions, "marketing" stuff, etc. + you guys enjoying the betas & playing battles, etc.

Two Years ago, (yes folks!) I downloaded, installed and played an early "pirate" version of this mod, released by a french dissident of your Team. You know who/what I'm talking about. Although unfinished (Beta v.) It was fully playable I had great fun with, but I wanted the real thing = your "finished" version, at least a 1.0 or even a public Beta.

Now, I don't want to raise sh... about that, but that almost depresses me to see all this great stuff, and NOTHING really coming out for the public. So, I wonder if you actually want to make a release one day or just keep it from yourselves.

Please, no "technical" BS answer telling me It's not possible cuz I won't buy it. I played the "pirate beta" long ago...

I write that with the best intentions, not to raise hell but because like thousands of players I've expected this mod, know you could release a 1.0. but just don't + I hope you will have the humility (a proof of intelligence BTW) to realize that It's time to end the cool previews and release something real.

Regards & Respect,

Big P

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but as long as I've been waiting for this mod (2+ years now), I've never had anything but the best of confidence in those working on it, both in regards to the previous teams as well as the current one, that they do indeed want to release the mod. But the thing about it is that they don't want to release an unfinished product, which I agree with and support completely.

The current team has made a lot of rapid progress over the last few months and I personally believe that a release is closer than ever.

Jarlaxe and team, I have complete and unconditional faith in you guys and believe we'll all be rampaging across Greece sooner than ever.

Just my $0.02.

[Agisilaos]

That's a simple question. Actually I have strong doubts about the will of your team to release this mod for the public (us) one day.

I explain myself: for YEARS, even way before I was a TWC member, I've seen tons of super-cool PREVIEWS, all these polls, discussions, "marketing" stuff, etc. + you guys enjoying the betas & playing battles, etc.

Two Years ago, (yes folks!) I downloaded, installed and played an early "pirate" version of this mod, released by a french dissident of your Team. You know who/what I'm talking about. Although unfinished (Beta v.) It was fully playable I had great fun with, but I wanted the real thing = your "finished" version, at least a 1.0 or even a public Beta.

Now, I don't want to raise sh... about that, but that almost depresses me to see all this great stuff, and NOTHING really coming out for the public. So, I wonder if you actually want to make a release one day or just keep it for yourselves.

Please, no "technical" BS answer telling me It's not possible cuz I won't buy it. I played the "pirate beta" long ago...

I write that with the best intentions, not to raise hell but because like thousands of players I've expected this mod, know you could release a 1.0. but just don't + I hope you will have the humility (a proof of intelligence BTW) to realize that It's time to end the cool previews and release something real.

Regards & Respect,

Big P

does not seem to be such a friendly post as you say. this team got hands on the mod this year maybe 6 months ago. have you seen the latest preview of jarlaxe? it is not something you can achieve in a week!
there is a beta that is working but there are bugs that are slowly fixed. do not forget we have the help of Aradan and this mod will be released when the team BELIEVES it is the way it wanted and not a hurry half-made mod. if you can wait fine if not then what can we do? also do not forget there are things in our lives that need our time and attention and modding can wait a week unless the personal problems get solved. no one is paying any mod team so you cannot demand things right now or in a month's date line. the first plan was to have the release around christmas or january but now it is about march or april. there is also the problem of balancing the huge roster of units, writing descriptions, check how the expansion works after a lot of turns and many more.
the stolen mod you played from the french guy has nothing to do with this team. the previous guys were with him and when we got into the team the stolen beta was already released! certainly we could not release something before we find out what is going on in Hegemonia's beta!

[genko]

you have to understand that this is a new team working on heg now and with a new team is bound to come new ideas just be patient these people are doing this not for your benefit but because they want too do it in there free time no less while your out having fun drinking beer or whatever i know its hard too keep patient after so long but just hang in there we can play this fantastic looking mod after christmas

[Lorgan]

Sensing from your tone, you're the kind of person who can only survive on the internet.

Now sit back while the team - not the same team as the one with the french dissident btw - sacrifices their free time to make probably the best RTW mod ever. And remember they are in no way obligated to do so, no matter how many "tough guys" the internet has to offer.

[Starlightman]

Question to HCS Team: do you want to release this mod one day?

a simple Answer :

YES



thread close

Starlightman

edit

Answer to OP has been given...like a friend says :

Straight, simple and to the point.

Everything else is only to make impressions...

Thanks to everyone that posted