Is a soul created by God indestructible?

[Thalassocrat]

It just struck me, God breath life into Adam, the Quran has a slightly different version but overall the idea is God gave us part of His Essence.

Hell is damnation not obliteration....

New debate, are human and angelic souls immortal/eternal as created by God

[Arch-hereticK]

Souls hhmmm.

How'd we know?
How can we percieve an afterlife without our fleshy eyes? or nose? or ears? or touch it? How do we dicern reality without a functioning brain?

How is it "us" that go to an afterlife if there is no pain in heaven or doubt or fear or hate or anger. Is it only a part of us that goes to heaven? How can we truly say that heaven is good if there is no bad there, surely one cannot exist without the other. What then is the need to believe in a soul? Is it the very human fear of death?

[Miracles]

Souls hhmmm.
How'd we know?
How can we percieve an afterlife without our fleshy eyes? or nose? or ears? or touch it? How do we dicern reality without a functioning brain?

That's reserved for selected people to know.
For the masses they would have to accept that they can only read about it through the scriptures.

Deuteronomy 29:29, The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.

How can we truly say that heaven is good if there is no bad there, surely one cannot exist without the other.

Can black exist without white sure it can.
You are assuming too much Sir when you say that good cannot exist without evil. It should have been evil cannot exist when there's already good as darkness cannot prevail in the presence of light and stupidity cannot remain in the light of knowledge and wisdom.

[Arch-hereticK]

That's reserved for selected people to know.
For the masses they would have to accept that they can only read about it through the scriptures.

Deuteronomy 29:29, The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.

Oh goody, secret knowledge, that's all we need.

Can black exist without white sure it can.
You are assuming too much Sir when you say that good cannot exist without evil. It should have been evil cannot exist when there's already good as darkness cannot prevail in the presence of light and stupidity cannot remain in the light of knowledge and wisdom.

Yes black can exist without white, but we wouldn't call it black as there is nothing to differentiate it from anything else. Likewise if there was only "good" it wouldn't be good, it'd be everything and not deserving a name, it'd be indescernible from everything else and cease to exist.

[Helm]

We certainly have a soul but it may well be perfectly destructible being as it is formed from billions of firing neurons.

[Arch-hereticK]

We certainly have a soul but it may well be perfectly destructible being as it is formed from billions of firing neurons.

We sure do have souls, but other than sub-conscious guides what other purpose could they serve?
If we can emperically figure that out then the rest will fall into place.

[Vizsla]

This is in no way intended to be insulting or to riducule your beliefs so please do not take it that way.

What about when old people get dementia or when formely sane people go crazy? These people have stopped being themselves. In terms of identity they have become someone else. In some ways we are all constantly changing. I am not the same person now I was when I was 4.
So has the soul been destroyed?
If not then the self must be separate from the soul.
If the self is separate from the soul then what is the point of the souls continued existence given that all that was the self has been destroyed on death.
So why does God bother to punish or reward these souls for all eternity given that they have no connection to the identites that were good or bad during life?

[DekuTrash]

No, but apparently they are indivisible.....

Oh wait that's in the Pledge of Allegiance.

[Flavius Nevitta]

Well, I guess in Christianity the soul has to be indestructible. Bible says all souls will be judged in the end by god. This can only happen if they exist till then...

[Perkele]

It just struck me, God breath life into Adam, the Quran has a slightly different version but overall the idea is God gave us part of His Essence.

Hell is damnation not obliteration....

New debate, are human and angelic souls immortal/eternal as created by God

Well, I would guess God can destroy them, so no.

[Thalassocrat]

Well, I guess in Christianity the soul has to be indestructible. Bible says all souls will be judged in the end by god. This can only happen if they exist till then...

But the penalty upon judgement is damnation, eternal suffering...not destruction

Well, I would guess God can destroy them, so no.

That is never mentioned. If we consider that we are of his essence, an Omnipotent God cannot destroy His own essence, it is a contradiction

[Flavius Nevitta]

But the penalty upon judgement is damnation, eternal suffering...not destruction

isn't that what I said

[Thalassocrat]

isn't that what I said

Sorry, just wanted to clarify about being "judged in the end by god."

[Aonghus G. Friedhold]

That is never mentioned. If we consider that we are of his essence, an Omnipotent God cannot destroy His own essence, it is a contradiction

If there is something god cannot destroy, he is not omnipotent.

[Thalassocrat]

If there is something god cannot destroy, he is not omnipotent.

That He cannot cannot destroy His essence shows He is omnipotent...think about it

[Ummon]

Is existence a 1/0 issue?

[Thalassocrat]

Is existence a 1/0 issue?

pardon?

[Morkonan]

Is existence a 1/0 issue?

pardon?

In other words, is existence a binary issue? Is it a yes/no, true/false, like/opposite type of issue?

[blackwatersix]

As a Catholic i believe Thalassocrat is right. Our souls are indestructible, because the only result for us is paradise or damnation. Of course I say this because I'm a Catholic.

Does anyone care to bet how long before we get insulted by believing in the human soul?

[Thalassocrat]

Does anyone care to bet how long before we get insulted by believing in the human soul?

WE WILL stoically ignore those post. We will not get dragged down to the level of idiots and then lose to them on account of experiance