Disturbing PC attitude in Army

[Hounf of Culan]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...llnation-yahoo

I know there is a thread on the Fort Hood shootings but its already faded away. However, I just came across this article and think it highlights what I find to be a very disturbing PC trend in the Army in a lot of different areas like islamic terrorism, women soldiers, collateral damage etc. I just feel like today's Army is becoming too concerned with the sort of fake, disingenuous image that our politicians are always trying to create for themselves.

[Nevins]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...111002718.html

It gets better.

[Erik]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...111002718.html

It gets better.

I've noticed the US military always puts women and minorities in front of the camera.
When Bush visited that aircraft carrier, you almost got the impression as if it was an all-female crew.

I don't think this has anything to do with "P.C." though, just brushing up the image of the US military to make it appear more friendly and humane.
It's harder to hate women than men, you see.

[Nevins]

I've noticed the US military always puts women and minorities in front of the camera.
When Bush visited that aircraft carrier, you almost got the impression as if it was an all-female crew.

I don't think this has anything to do with "P.C." though, just brushing up the image of the US military to make it appear more friendly and humane.
It's harder to hate women than men, you see.

Well in that instance it goes beyond merely the cameras. The color guard is an elective organization, and 6 white, male, students earned their spots. The Navy thought that it would look better if they had a minority and a woman included, for no reason other than to look more diverse. Its just plain absurd.

[mongrel]

Well in that instance it goes beyond merely the cameras. The color guard is an elective organization, and 6 white, male, students earned their spots. The Navy thought that it would look better if they had a minority and a woman included, for no reason other than to look more diverse. Its just plain absurd.

And the evidence that the woman and the non white students did not "earn their spots" is what precisely? Let us see tthe documentation that proves your point.

[Lovejoy]

Collateral damage dumb PC concern? lol! That phrase has lost it meanings.

[Dr. Oza]

no form of terrorism christian, environmental, racist or Islamic should be allowed anywhere.. least of all the army.. but immediately investigating and accusing all muslims is not the solution either...

[Simon Cashmere]

no form of terrorism christian, environmental, racist or Islamic should be allowed anywhere.. least of all the army.. but immediately investigating and accusing all muslims is not the solution either...

Nobody is accusing 'all muslims' of anything. But the participation of Islam in jihad plots is kind of a recurring theme, and it would be a negligent dereliction of duty for the US Army not to focus on the risk of Islamic terror.

Major Jihad is the first terrorist in history that gave a Microsoft Powerpoint demonstration for an hour as to the precise detail of his motivations. And for the legion of PC fanboys both within the Army and outside of it, that still isn't enough. They still want to say - wonder what his reason was? Could have been anything - maybe psychological trouble.

The threat of Islam is not nearly as bad as the threat of PC mindboggling wilful blindness and stupidity. The Leftist Islamic Enablers are the more immediate threat to our society.

[Mangalore]

Nobody is accusing 'all muslims' of anything. But the participation of Islam in jihad plots is kind of a recurring theme, and it would be a negligent dereliction of duty for the US Army not to focus on the risk of Islamic terror. ...

I would be confused if the participation of Islam in jihad plots wouldn't be a recurring theme given that jihad is an Islamic concept...

Otherwise I don't see what the OP implies. I only see a bunch of classmates badmouthing a guy the general public views bad anyway. I don't see any PC there but just a bunch of people having a go at a dead guy. That's not very politically correct, esspecially if it's a classmate regardless of what character he had or what he did. He's dead. He killed a bunch of people and the way the quotes go it might have to do as much with bullying (given the overall negative comments on him by his classmates) as him being a Jihadist. Which of the two or what else it actually was should be determined by someone else with greater expertise.

[Syriana]

Hurr durr Political Correctness caused the Fort Hood shootings.

Really, I like it how all these people - totally anonymous, at that - have so brilliantly predicted that Hasan was going to do something dangerous days after he did it.

I mean, Christ, what excellent clairvoyance.

Not to mention the fact that we have only the word of these aforementioned anonymous students to go on, and that they did not even lodge an official complaint. Seriously, it just seems like the usual case of post-disaster "I knew this was going happen but no one believed me and the establishment was keepin' me down!".

Oh, and I do so love that everyone in that article is falling over each other to discredit and criticise the gunman. When a soldier dies in Iraq, their obituary makes them sound like the reincarnation of John Wayne. When a shooter dies, the news quickly moves to label him a paedophile/fundamentalist/insane/inept, because God knows, we can't handle such issues unless its broken down into simplistic black-and-white "He bad, we good" terms.

As for the second article:

They added a non-caucasian male to the parade?!

IT'S POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAAAAAAAAD!

[Stavroforos]

Yeah, anything for the anti-PC group of paranoid internet posters to find something else which is supposedly attributable to it.

[Pickle_mole]

Is anyone here pro-pc?

[Farnan]

PC is a worthless acronym that means anything people want it to mean.

[Oldgamer]

PC is a worthless acronym that means anything people want it to mean.

I disagree entirely. PC is a threat to the most important right of all. That is, the right to freely express oneself in public. Taken to its logical extension, PC will result in the arrest of anyone who publicly disagrees with authority.

[Farnan]

I disagree entirely. PC is a threat to the most important right of all. That is, the right to freely express oneself in public. Taken to its logical extension, PC will result in the arrest of anyone who publicly disagrees with authority.

What is PC?

Because everyone has a different definition of PC.

Some people say that it is against PC to criticize the POTUS, but others that PC is common courtesy and that must be stopped (by that I mean not using the N-word, not insulting people and the like).

[Oldgamer]

What is PC?

Because everyone has a different definition of PC.

Some people say that it is against PC to criticize the POTUS, but others that PC is common courtesy and that must be stopped (by that I mean not using the N-word, not insulting people and the like).

Political Correctness is the attempt by people in government and non-governmental organizations (which can include media) to control thought and public expression through a series of social sanctions and laws (like "hate crimes").

To criticize the POTUS is a patriotic duty, these days. The Premier of the United States is purposely attempting to destroy the military and economic power of this country, in my estimation. I don't envy the position his government may place you in, in years to come. Your oath to the Constitution may conflict with orders directly from his office. You have a duty to disobey illegal orders, even if they come from the Commander-in-Chief.

Also, common courtesy worked quite well in America, in the past.

[mongrel]

Political Correctness is the attempt by people in government and non-governmental organizations (which can include media) to control thought and public expression through a series of social sanctions and laws (like "hate crimes").

To criticize the POTUS is a patriotic duty, these days. The Premier of the United States is purposely attempting to destroy the military and economic power of this country, in my estimation. I don't envy the position his government may place you in, in years to come. Your oath to the Constitution may conflict with orders directly from his office. You have a duty to disobey illegal orders, even if they come from the Commander-in-Chief.

Also, common courtesy worked quite well in America, in the past.

Bah.The only significant effect PC had on the US army was the decision to make it a virtually all white army for almost one and a half centuries, reducing the manpower available to it, for no other purpose than to pander to Southern racists.

Wasn't the American economy wrecked under Bush's watch? And who sent US forces to Iraq for no discernible purpose and decided to fight the kind of war in Afghanistan is is quite frankly unwinnable? Wasn't it "the decider" himself? If one has a duty to disobey illegal orders why did the US army nonetheless invade Iraq?

[Helm]

What they're not even allowed to blow away the odd civilian to let off some steam anymore? It's political corectness gone mad.

[Richard]

What they're not even allowed to blow away the odd civilian to let off some steam anymore? It's political corectness gone mad.

+rep

[s.rwitt]

Oh, and I do so love that everyone in that article is falling over each other to discredit and criticise the gunman.

What? What kind of good things do you think someone could possibly say about a guy like that? He'd never deployed, he'd never done anything but go to school (on the govt's bill), work in a hospital (and do a ****ty job of it), and kill 13 innocent people. What good is there to talk about?