Ithilien and Athala Rangers

[Emperorrick]

I personally think the Athala Rangers are the best looking archers in the game. Way better than my movie favorites: the Ithilien Rangers. Is it possible to change the dresses that Ithilien Rangers wear?? That way they look more badass like the Athala Rangers. Or is this already secretly in development ?

[fenix3279]

Heh, I personally prefer the Ithilien attire. It's sweet and simple. Like ninjas. That's why they're awesome. Athala rangers look more like commandos. Also badass.

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can you say 'ass' here?

[maxi90]

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can you say 'ass' here?

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yes we can!

[Evan MF]

I think that the Gondorian Units are a step behind Rhun, Harad, Rohan, Isengard, Dale and Mordor (to a degree)... Hopefully they will bring it up to the same standard as they are IMP the 'Core' faction of the game.

And then there's the laggers of the factions OOTMM and Eriador...

Evan

[Emperorrick]

Well Gondor unites overall look kick ass sweet. But I understand your point compared to Rhun

But the worst Gondor unit in my opinion are the Ithilien Rangers.

BTW is it possible to add a: able to hide everywhere thingy to the Rangers?

[fenix3279]

Well Gondor unites overall look kick ass sweet. But I understand your point compared to Rhun

But the worst Gondor unit in my opinion are the Ithilien Rangers.

BTW is it possible to add a: able to hide everywhere thingy to the Rangers?

For Shame.

I don't like the axemen of Losernach

[Emperorrick]

Hmmm yeah but the Rangers wear dresses???

Kinda like this:

[fenix3279]

Do you really think the rangers would wear dresses? That's just their gear.





EDIT : I just saw that pic you posted. Now you're just being a silly one.

[Outlawstar15a2]

I hapeen to like the Gondor units to me they are badass. The Lossarnach Axemen look nice and I happen to like the Ithilien Rangers though I sometimes find myself tempted to fiddle with their stats however 1.3 seems to have put them on good footing again.

P.S.: Gondor units in general represent a highly standardized military backed by a large "empire" they aren't going to be as flashy as say the Athala rangers since resources are gonna be harder for Gondor to come by and they would have a more conservative attitude because of it. At least in real life that would be the reason why.

@Fenix3279: Where did you get that kick ass photo from? Also do you know where I can see pictures of a Haradrim female I've dying to see one.

[fenix3279]

@Fenix3279: Where did you get that kick ass photo from? Also do you know where I can see pictures of a Haradrim female I've dying to see one.

@Outlawstar: I found that pic on Google images. Take a look, there are hundreds of them. As for the female haradrim...
These are probably as close as they'll get.





@Maxi: Haha, thanks for clarifying.

[Shocked]

Omg KK can you please change the skins of Axemen of Lossnarch

[STELLover]

I personally think the Athala Rangers are the best looking archers in the game. Way better than my movie favorites: the Ithilien Rangers. Is it possible to change the dresses that Ithilien Rangers wear?? That way they look more badass like the Athala Rangers. Or is this already secretly in development ?

@Emperorrick

Hi

If you are serious about this, here is your answer:

Hey

Changing the looks of preexisting units and their textures requires some work, but can be done simply by
copying moving, and renaming!! First lets say, if you want to change the Ithilien Rangers to Athala Rangers or even Sindar Archers (that does not sound right) then you have to change the unit's textures as well as attatchments (bows or shields) and their meshes.

STEP 1: Find your unit you want to change and the unit that you want to change to
- This can be found in modelsdb file located in unit_models in Third_Age/data
- I recommend using the "find" function to find your units.
- under the units find the location and names of the texture, attatchment, and mesh files
- For example:

1
4 None
17 MTW2_Fast_Javelin
19 MTW2_Fast_Swordsman 2
20 MTW2_Javelin_primary
14 fs_test_shield 2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
14 fountain_guard
1 1
47 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/xx7_lod0.mesh 6400
1
6 sicily
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_xmail_xmail_poland.texture
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_xmail_xmail_normal.texture
45 unit_sprites/sicily_fountain_guard_sprite.spr
1
6 sicily
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final guard_poland_diff.texture
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final guard_poland_norm.texture 0


The BLUE represents the mesh of the unit
The RED represents the different textures of the unit
The PURPLE represents the sprites (unit cards) of the unit
The GREEN represents the Attatchments and ordinances


STEP 2: After you have found the files of your changing unit above (exclude the sprites if you want same unit cards) and the files of the unit that you are going to change to, copy and paste the files of the units you are going to change
- Copy them all and paste them so somewhere so that you will not confuse with other files
- Rename them (Mesh 1 to Mesh A, Texture 1 and Texture 2 to Texture A and Texture B)
- Paste the renamed files back to where your changing unit's textures and meshes are.
- It will ask you to replace the files- Do it
- Also be aware that most units have upgraded units also. You have to do the same for upgrades to avoid graphical bugs and crashes and see the entire change

STEP 3: Close modeldb if it says "Do you want so Save?" click cancel because you should not be changing anything in modelsdb!!!!
- If it does not show the main menu or intro screen, then you have done something wrong

If you have anyquestions, reply or send me a PM
Thanx, hope for your best gameplay!!

Regards
STELLover

@ Shocked

He will definetly not be willing to work on a minor change. Their textures are already very impressive and awesome. If you want to change them yourself, do it so through some 2D editing programs, but messing with textures can lead to some "ugly painted units" if not done correctly

[eugenioso]

its curious how the only thing i can think of when i see that image of faramir is that all those guys behind him who get 0.5 seconds of screentime all appear in a mod as general picture, and have massive backstories written for them (usually ending with them dying worthlessly at pennelor or black gate ahhah)

[Lordinquisitor]

In my opinion both look great; In their own way.

[Beregond]

you have some good points here, Emperorrick.
I think Ithilien Rangers very much remind me of Pilgrims in vanilla but dunno what you guys don't like in the Axemen of Lossarnach, they look really great! on the other hand the faces of Swans bother me a bit...

[Evan MF]

The Swan faces are a bit flat.

I understand what you mean by pilgrims and I think they should be altered to look more like Faramir in the picture.

The Axemen of Lossarnach should be changes. I don't think the whole bald and beared look suits them in my mind at all.

[fenix3279]

The Axemen of Lossarnach should be changes. I don't think the whole bald and beared look suits them in my mind at all.

My main gripe is the armor. It just looks painted on to me.

[Evan MF]

My main gripe is the armor. It just looks painted on to me.

By the sound of things, Gondor needs a bit of a rework. I wonder whether this as been planned?

Evan

[Romaneck]

You guys are out of your mind, the rangers are the epitome of badassery!

If only they should have more attention to the white tree in the chest, but pilgrim´s looked like demented cultists... the rangers look like the commandos of middle earth

[Vaz]

No, they don't need a rework - they could do with a few textures updating things updating to the quality of the Remade Armoured Gondorians, but other than that, I can easily use those.