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    http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/mr...h-care-reform/

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    In the opening scene, a woman with 4 children is driving the wrong way down the West Side Highway (like the Diane Schuler Taconic Parkway horror this summer). Speaking on her cell phone erratically (no “hands free!”), the kids get concerned. She decides it is time to use nasal spray for her allergies, which had been spiked without her knowledge. Flash forward and viewers see two mangled vehicles resulting in seven deaths.
    Detectives Barnard and Lupo scan the usual suspects; husband (nope, he seems too distraught), in-laws (no reason, plus their kids died), even the cancer stricken mother-in-law (too sincere). We discover the deceased woman and her boss (“Mad Men’s” Rich Sommer) have had secret late night meetings for weeks. They discovered their drug company has doctored marketing materials and bribed doctors to push a cancer medication which can extend terminal patients lives up to a few months, although most last at most a week. The medication is a $1000 a day. The episode makes it clear such life extending drugs exist for drug company profit only.
    Consumers are portrayed as morons and dupes. Doctor’s have magical (and evil) powers to persuade them to buy this drug against their own better judgment and economic interest. One middle aged son complains that his father lasted 30 days too long on the drug, thus wiping out his mother’s savings as she was forced to sell her house. Apparently the writers did not think it important to explore why the father and mother were willing to do this. But they were quite sure they should not have. Who needs death panels with kids like that?
    Insurance companies are also evil. Even though they stopped paying for a drug which the writers make clear should not exist, they still come in for criticism for discontinuing payments. In utter frustration, Jack McCoy blurts out, “This is why we need health care reform.” Why is that Jack? The drug company used misleading advertising and made bribes. Don’t we already have laws against that? Or do we need to force people not to take life-extending drugs? What does health-care reform have to do with any of this? When shows just follow talking points it is hard to stay coherent.
    Ultimately, we learn the deceased drunk mother, Brenda Sawyer, was working with the FDA to expose her company’s deceitful marketing representations and practices, including bribing doctors, about the life extending cancer drug, “Lextenda.” A “whistle-blower” law awards a large percent of the fine to those who come forward if their company is convicted. Sommer’s character, Zach Marshall was her boss. He was working with her under the impression they would be sharing the award. She informed him, as the official “whistle-blower,” she would giving the award to charity. Marshall realizes his big payday is gone and decides to murder her so he can collect the award. During an office party he spikes her soft drink with alcohol and her nasal spray with a drug which mixes poorly with alcohol. Marshall then discovers she’s picking up the children and calls 9-1-1, but too late. He thought killing her was fine (plus whoever she might hit) but had some qualms about children.
    While it is not made clear how Marshall communicated with his company, McCoy knew he had information proving their deceitful practices and was effectively blackmailing them. They erased his computer files, and paid for his legal defense, apparently all legal. The Chairman of Woodmore Pharmaceutical (a contributor to McCoy, who righteously gives him back his money) is shown as clearly caring only about covering up the illegal and deceitful marketing practices. The plot line makes it clear the company was willing to defend Sommer, regardless of what he did – including murder, to prevent the information from getting out. Sommer is convicted of murder. The exposure of Woodmore’s practices is not made explicit, but the viewer assumes they have been compromised.
    And that is why we need health care reform.
    White House talking points huh? Really?

    Just shows how desperate they are really getting.

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    Yes, those evil conservatives. All they do is desperately cling on to their horrible, mean-spirited, hostile agenda. We should hang them, am I right? Those despicable traitors to truth, freedom, happiness, justice, love, tolerance, and all things good need to be imprisoned. Better yet, just give them lethal injections, because they're obviously going to be liars for the rest of their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterlight View Post
    Yes, those evil conservatives. All they do is desperately cling on to their horrible, mean-spirited, hostile agenda. We should hang them, am I right? Those despicable traitors to truth, freedom, happiness, justice, love, tolerance, and all things good need to be imprisoned. Better yet, just give them lethal injections, because they're obviously going to be liars for the rest of their lives.
    Oh I do, that's why I'm neither a liberal or conservative.


    Are you promoting the execution of conservatives? Hanging? Lethal injection?

    EDIT: Are you being sarcastic?
    Last edited by Ænema; November 17, 2009 at 10:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ænema View Post
    Oh I do, that's why I'm neither a liberal or conservative.

    rofl, nice edit. Are you promoting the execution of conservatives? Hanging? Lethal injection?
    Yes, my edit needed to be hasty to cover up the assumption I usually make: that liberals are always bashing conservatives, and not the other way 'round. Also, I just didn't read the link; I saw your response, and acted quickly.

    I am a conservative, so no; that post was sarcastic.

    How can someone be neither a liberal or a conservative? Center-left is still liberal, and center-right is still conservative. You simply can't have a centrist, literally, just as you can't have someone who is entirely apolitical. Anyway, I am not sure whether you meant NBC was getting desperate, or Breitbart's team was getting desperate. It looks like your comment could go either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterlight View Post
    Yes, my edit needed to be hasty to cover up the assumption I usually make: that liberals are always bashing conservatives, and not the other way 'round. Also, I just didn't read the link; I saw your response, and acted quickly.

    I am a conservative, so no; that post was sarcastic.
    OK sorry about that, thought you were being serious.
    Quote Originally Posted by Winterlight View Post
    How can someone be neither a liberal or a conservative? Center-left is still liberal, and center-right is still conservative. You simply can't have a centrist, literally, just as you can't have someone who is entirely apolitical.
    I'm more moderate center-right but don't call myself a conservative, although I hold some conservative ideals.
    Quote Originally Posted by Winterlight View Post
    Anyway, I am not sure whether you meant NBC was getting desperate, or Breitbart's team was getting desperate. It looks like your comment could go either way.
    Well we know that NBC is totally in the tank for Obama and the left just as the rest of the media, does it surprise you they are using white house talking memos? Now would be the perfect time to try and condition the public to accept it as it's only a few weeks before it could pass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    Because Politics can't be judged on a line.

    I Can be center-left on one thing, Center-right on another, vividly conservative on another issue, and liberal on yet another. When your views don't easily fall into the predefined "Liberal" and "Conservative" camps, your neither.
    QFT.

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    How can someone be neither a liberal or a conservative? Center-left is still liberal, and center-right is still conservative. You simply can't have a centrist, literally, just as you can't have someone who is entirely apolitical. Anyway, I am not sure whether you meant NBC was getting desperate, or Breitbart's team was getting desperate. It looks like your comment could go either way.
    Because Politics can't be judged on a line.

    I Can be center-left on one thing, Center-right on another, vividly conservative on another issue, and liberal on yet another. When your views don't easily fall into the predefined "Liberal" and "Conservative" camps, your neither.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    Because Politics can't be judged on a line.

    I Can be center-left on one thing, Center-right on another, vividly conservative on another issue, and liberal on yet another. When your views don't easily fall into the predefined "Liberal" and "Conservative" camps, your neither.
    Well, if that's the case what's the point of even having "right" and "left"? If we all simply hold meshed versions of those views, it seems only confusion can result from such absolute labels. Then again, I wouldn't want to have to say, every time someone asks, that I am an "Anti-Choice-Anti-Drug-Pro-Military-Anti-Gay-Rights-Pro-Gun Monarchist".

    Anyway, I think the bloody liberals are going to take over the world and ruin it every which way to Sunday with tactics and laws like this one. What more can be said? They hardly even need to justify themselves before the public anymore, because they just pass whatever they want to pass. The peasants will continue to elect them, so none of it really matters anymore. Let us all serve the globalist agenda of a one-world government controlled from the U.N. Central Tower of Justice!
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    Well, if that's the case what's the point of even having "right" and "left"?
    The same reason we have "white" and "black" people. An absolutely worthless assessment of someone.

    The peasants will continue to elect them, so none of it really matters anymore. Let us all serve the globalist agenda of a one-world government controlled from the U.N. Central Tower of Justice!
    Were you aware that the people voting for the democratic party have on average: More education, larger salaries, and access to greater wealth than their republican counterparts?

    Peasants are generally the poor downtrodden uneducated people of a society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    Were you aware that the people voting for the democratic party have on average: More education, larger salaries, and access to greater wealth than their republican counterparts?

    Peasants are generally the poor downtrodden uneducated people of a society.
    Oh, yes sir. I know that in a certain year of his Vice Presidency, Richard Cheney personally donated 70% of his YEAR'S INCOME to charity. Most Democrats do not do that, despite the fact that they are much wealthier. The Republicans are surely the party of the ultra-rich...

    I've always believed Prager's maxim that the biggest supporters of the Democrats are the ultra-rich and the ultra-poor. The ultra-rich vote Democrat because they can absorb huge tax increases and want bigger government, in general, to make themselves feel better about themselves. The ultra-poor vote Democrat because they don't actually have to pay the huge taxes, and they want bigger government for free hand-outs. The middle "class" vote Republican, generally, because they aren't lazy hoboes or immoral billionaires, and they have to bear the brunt of taxation and tyranny.

    Take a look at just which big evil companies gave money to Obama for his health care campaign. You may just notice that most of them are C.E.O.s of the richest Fortune 500 companies. So much for despicable, shadowy, fascistic corporations ruling the world from the Republican Party Throne.

    Of course, it might help if Demoncrats actually bothered reading Coulter or listening to Limbaugh just once instead of reading fake quotes on the internet. Where we would be if liberals bothered to read what their opponents said and actually attempted to understand us...
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    Oh, yes sir. I know that in a certain year of his Vice Presidency, Richard Cheney personally donated 70% of his YEAR'S INCOME to charity. Most Democrats do not do that, despite the fact that they are much wealthier. The Republicans are surely the party of the ultra-rich...
    Irrelevant, Cheney doesn't represent anything other than himself.

    I've always believed Prager's maxim that the biggest supporters of the Democrats are the ultra-rich and the ultra-poor. The ultra-rich vote Democrat because they can absorb huge tax increases and want bigger government, in general, to make themselves feel better about themselves. The ultra-poor vote Democrat because they don't actually have to pay the huge taxes, and they want bigger government for free hand-outs. The middle "class" vote Republican, generally, because they aren't lazy hoboes or immoral billionaires, and they have to bear the brunt of taxation and tyranny.
    Do you have any evidence to back this up, or just using bias to make something up. As a nonvoting moderate I personally don't have a stake in it, but haven't been able to find any real information on this.
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    evil law and order... showing the truth that conservatives want to ignore...

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    So what's the point of this thread?

    Do you want Law and Order to be censured?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winterlight
    I've always believed Prager's maxim that the biggest supporters of the Democrats are the ultra-rich and the ultra-poor. The ultra-rich vote Democrat because they can absorb huge tax increases and want bigger government, in general, to make themselves feel better about themselves.
    Your outdated misconceptions amuse me.

    If anything, the ultra-rich will vote Republican in the knowledge that the GOP will never hesistate to over the lower classes in favour of them. Hell, they even gave it a name: trickle-down-economics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winterlight
    The ultra-poor vote Democrat because they don't actually have to pay the huge taxes, and they want bigger government for free hand-outs.
    Since when did we have a law that automatically excluded people below a certain income bracket from paying taxes?

    And by "want bigger government for free hand-outs", I think you mean "want a government which won't leave them to slip through the cracks".

    Quote Originally Posted by Winterlight
    The middle "class" vote Republican, generally, because they aren't lazy hoboes or immoral billionaires,
    Because nothing says "moral" like denying euthanasia and condemning homosexuality!

    Quote Originally Posted by Winterlight
    and they have to bear the brunt of taxation and tyranny.
    So basically, you're saying that Democratic voters are inspired by altruistic principles, while Republican voters are motivated purely by greed and self-interest?

    Good to know.

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    God, even the most retarded hayseed armchair talk radio pundit should be able to see that the White house is not writing telly.

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    Am I missing something? We have a loose interpretation of a Hollywood TV script and from this we are to discuss Obama and healthcare reform? I really do not like to close threads, but...

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