Superior Cheat Console Tactics Vol1

[Fireright]

The Noble Art of Cheating in RTW is usually regarded as too difficult by most players, and whilst efficient cheating is an art form in itself worthy of the utmost respect, with practice and a few top tips, it can be accomplished with relative ease and simplicity by even the most inexperienced newbie.

Newbies and Novices are often discouraged by the sheer amount of typing, thought, potential pitfalls, disasters, and outright hard work involved to produce a winning and efficient cheat campaign, and sadly condemn themselves to the bog-standard yawn-inducing bug-fest regular rtw campaign game. This lamentable situation is easily remedied with appropriate guidance
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1: Do not use the fow cheat. It really does ruin the game and removes the suspense. Knowing in advance exactly what lies ahead is frowned upon by Master Cheaters. With the entire map revealed there is little incentive to proceed with an expert cheat campaign. Beginners often make this their first mistake, and it should be avoided at all costs.

2: Don't bother with forced movement cheats. Quite simply, they're too much hard work,inefficient and too fiddly to mess around with..plonking about with co-ordinates and numerical stuff..not worth the effort involved. For amateurs only.

3: Go easy with the add money cheat. Again, this is often a beginners first mistake, wearing themselves out through keyboard-overuse by ceaselessly adding money. Keyboard exhaustion and RSI are just one of the many perils faced by sucessful and respected efficient cheaters. Take things easy..rack up a few million denarii... go take a breather or make a coffee..rest, relax, return and rack up a few million more denarii. Take your time using add money. There really is no rush on this one. Time is your side.

4: Auto Win is there for a reason. Beginners foolishly rush in to fight battles themselves and can ruin their campaigns by actual involvement in battles and seiges Sick of hearing 'our ships are under attack!'?.......auto win can be skillfully employed to remove those pesky pirates, boats, armies, cities....everything. Even the 'biggies' eg Rome, Carthage, Alexandria, can be swiftly smitten and crushed.It might sound a tough call... but with auto win, it can be done. Don't be discouraged. Newbies should fight battles sparingly and as wisely as their wisdom will allow.

5: Too many cheats spoil the campaign. Amateurs will often baffle themselves and over-complicate campaigns by using too many different cheats. Most campaigns can be completed using a mere handful of cheat types, and there really is no need to overdo things...another common newbie error!!. 3 or 4 are usually the maximum number required to pull off a winning campaign against the odds.

Finally.. &:Most Importantly Do not edit game preference files. Total waste of time, too much hard work, and therefore despised by the cheating community. Editing out stuff or reducing rebel frequency, increasing armour/defence etc is considered disgraceful conduct and will NOT be discussed here.

Respected members of the RTW cheating community use the console..and ONLY the console.

[LCD Soundsystem]

I didnt know we had a respected cheating community

[Fireright]

It is a widely accepted fact that the RTW cheat community is the most respected of all TW cheat communities.

Observe the vast amount of cheats available to the Shogun, Med1 and Med2 cheat communities, and you will find that RTW campaign cheat professionals have a feeble amount of console cheat choices to work with.
Compared to the other tw cheat communities, they have a life of luxury and ease with so many options.

It takes skill to pull off a gruelling and winning efficient cheat campaign against the odds in RTW.

I felt it appropriate to mark my 100th posting a substantive and informative gift to assist those desirious of improving their console skills.

[Doctor]

to cheating in this game. It is way to easy to need to cheat in it to win...

and I love using FOW, the only cheat I respect. Only because it satisfies my curiosity on how factions are doing in comparison to when I play as a different faction, not to check if foreign armies are coming/ which AI cities are ill defended (that is what spies are for.)

[blackwatersix]

bah I only use the add_trait cheat so as to remove the Arse traits. :| It's like so wrong to have a Conqueror and then have him.. Gay. Hell of a morale bonus for the "manly" Roman men.

[Fireright]

A Superior and winning cheat campaign can be easily delivered by totally ignoring traits/retinues and all that peripheral nonsense. There's simply no point in reading all those drop-down boxes, too much irrelevant info and effort involved in reading the stuff. Efficiency is the key word here. Swapping traits and stuff is too much hard work and tinkering about, and will drastically reduce efficiency.

Console Professionals regard traits/retinues and stuff with contempt, mere sideshows to the main event.

[Parzival2211]

bah I only use the add_trait cheat so as to remove the Arse traits. :| It's like so wrong to have a Conqueror and then have him.. Gay. Hell of a morale bonus for the "manly" Roman men.

I guess we agree that Caesar was a great general and definitely a conqueror. Haven't you ever heard about Caesar's suspicious relationship with King Nicomedes of Bithynia, which his enemies used against him later on?

[blackwatersix]

So what do console professionals do? You've pretty much ruled out all cheats

[Fireright]

General guidance regarding accepted code of conduct & rules applicable in delivering a professional console campaign:

Fow stays on at all times thus no forced movement.
Absolutely no editing game files.
Console Only.
VH/VH
No Roman factions.
Entire Map conquered
RTW1.5 vanilla.
10 minutes.
　
Most definitely not for newbies, who must first master the art of console efficiency.
　

[Deux]

I think this thread may be a little tongue-in-cheek.

[Fireright]

The question was asked....the answer provided.

Such are the standards required if a player wishes to be respected by others as a Console Professional.
　
RTW provides a far stiffer challenge than the equivalent accomplishment in Med2 (due to the absolute gift of certain curry-type console enhancements) ... and 1.5 is therefore regarded as a bona-fide TW upon which to deliver the goods.

Earlier TW games due to their risk style movement maps are of zero challenge, and a multitude of cheats available far in excess of RTW means 1.5 remains the platform of choice for those seeking a true console challenge.

Superior Cheat Console Tactics Vol1 provides a useful and gentle introduction for beginners to the basics of console efficiency, common errors, pitfalls to avoid etc all at a leisurely pace.

Under 10 minute completion, start to finish, I would suggest, is impossible for a console newbie.

[Chris Death]

I'm using the add_money since i prefer to keep my armies alive instead of destroying units
when they're not needed just to get the money right. It might be maybe more challenging
without the add_money cheat but i see it same as in real life i don't go to 20 different shops
of the same kind just to get this piece cheaper her and the other piece cheaper there.

I enjoy in good battles with decent armies rather than in mastering economic stuff and counting units
for money - also this is a matter of my freetime and playing it without the cheats would definitely
cost me too much of that freetime just to wait for some interesting battles.

Also i'm using the create_unit cheat sometimes like when i get besieged by a full stack army
and my garrison consists of let's say 4 x peasants. I wouldn't want to fight that battle and i
also wouldn't want to loose that town only to have to start another lame siege where i wait
it out to get them into an open field battle which in lot of cases will end up with them giving
up.

Another reason for me to use the create_unit command is after i successfully conquer a town
and i could need that army for a potential good battle near there, i usually order me a 3 to 5 peasant
units there.

I also like to create_unit into ai's armies to help them out or to give them an army worth to be fought instead
of having to fight let's say 2 hastati 6 town watch 6 velites 3 dogs 2 ballistae's.
The romans i used here only to show you what i mean but usually in most cases the romans do not need to
get edited since they often deliver worthy battles but alot of other factions show up with crap armies which
you could hunt down with only light cavalry.

I don't like to create units which are not available for that faction since the unit card will be peasants and
off course because i don't like to see them in the wrong faction.

Traits i've been playing once around with but it seems to me that if you gain too many traits together, there's
a high chance of loosing this general in a battle.
I've built me 3 or 4 generals with about 7 to 9 stars just to see them getting killed by peasants or peltasts or so.
I'm not sure about this but it was very suspicius to me since all of those generals weren't alive after a few
rounds.

OnBattlefield cheats i have never used yet.

FOW i sometimes use to see how the others are doing or also if i want to send a diplomat or agent into a town where i forgot it's exact position and i just don't want waste his movement points. I wouldn't need that cheat for this if i would write down all settlement's coordinates on a paper so there's no point in not using that cheat for me.

FOW can also be useful if your campaign is crashing during the end-turn process and you want to find out where and
why.
If it's not for that reason i will always make sure to have FOW on before ending the turn - no need to sit there for 10
to 20 minutes just to watch ai moving troops or agents.

process_cq sometimes yes sometimes no - sometimes it's useful if you want to retrain armies and not have to go back
to older towns - just to save time.

move_character or give settlement kill_character stuff i'm not using at all.

~S~ CD

[Hakomar]

If you can cheat without making the game challenging - then that is good.
For example, the broken diplomacy can be fixed with force diplomacy, because it is pathetic. If you abuse it, then it is your problem. Whilst these tips are useful, I find it would be good if people stop saying cheating sucks or whatever. Whilst I personally frown on using cheats such as add_money, process_cq and stuff, unless it is for a RP reason, it is their choice, and if it makes their SINGLE PLAYER game more enteratining then good for them. I can't see the fun in all high-tier cities with super-armies with high-stats and the amount of hitpoints of a cataphract elephant.

In general, it is their choice, you shouldnt need to cheat to make the campaign easier, but if you are terrible, don't do it to the extreme. Do it to slightly balance things, not make it so you can't lose. Otherwise you will never learn.

[Fireright]

In general, it is their choice, you shouldnt need to cheat to make the campaign easier, but if you are terrible, don't do it to the extreme. Do it to slightly balance things, not make it so you can't lose. Otherwise you will never learn.

Indeed. Its a players choice if and when they select console assistance. The name of the console game though is efficiency, and sub-10 minute completion remains the Gold Standard in RTW 1.5

[King_Darius]

Indeed. Its a players choice if and when they select console assistance. The name of the console game though is efficiency, and sub-10 minute completion remains the Gold Standard in RTW 1.5

ah, but try and finish it sub 10 years....

that will give you cheaters some challenge....

[Chris Death]

ah, but try and finish it sub 10 years....

that will give you cheaters some challenge....

By using console commands you could do the campaign in one single
turn without any challenge but that's absolutely not the point of
the cheating in rtw.

~S~ CD

[King_Darius]

i meant without cheats

[Kylan271]

I definately use cheats without any remorse when play testing,for that they are very handy for checking if things work or not?

In game,you can get stuck armies and I use move_character on hapless AI units,Britons mainly..lol. When AI for some reason gets bankrupt I use give_money to that faction,again Briton seems to cop this-AI doesn't build boats to expand...sheesh.

Toggle_fow is my every use cheat. My diplomats can not see much of anyone even if close up,very frustrating running around the map like a chook just to spot someone. AI doesn't get hindered by fow,so it is a penalty for me as a player. I prefer suspense,but it is not practical in game. I also like to see what the other factions are doing,it is more interesting.

Money cheats..aghh,tempting. I play M/VH and try my best to survive with only what I have,it is more challenging. Unlimited money offers no challenge and the game becomes boring quickly,so don't use it except in playtesting.

Unfortunately as mentioned earlier,diplomacy sucks so Force Diplomacy is all the rage..^_* .

10 minutes for all the map wahahaha...Is there a create unit Duke Nukem around?????

[Fireright]

Duke Nukem or a few paratrooper drops would sure make competitive console campaigns easier!!

Console sports enthusiasts though can't cheat with create unit stuff...its banned, same as forced movement and other nonsense

Cheaters only cheat themselves on a timed console campaign and lose all their fans.
　
Console amateurs may wish to cut themselves some slack by lowering campaign difficulty from VH/VH, although using Romans as a practice run isnt recommended...a sub 10 min finish is way too easy with their overpowered units and central map start position, which is why Roman families are banned from 1.5 console sport.

The clock is ticking...efficiency is king...the pressure is on.

[caesar_37th]

i dont see the point of cheating when the ai is so damn easy anyways. i used thrace on vh vh to destroy the world. why the hell do u need to cheat unless you suck at the game. however i nust say using cheats only to take the map is a bit interesting but it doesnt take skill. it takes good typing skill. just never come online and i wont have to show you why cheaters have no skill.