Soldiers eligible for death penalty.

[Downey]

First you have is Hasan
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

then the Soldier who killed 5 comrades back in April.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/...nce/index.html

Then you have Sgt. Hasan Akhbar who before the 2003 Invasion of Iraq killed a Major and Captain in the 101st AB.

You would expect the dead sentences to be handed out quickly and the perpetrators to be delt with accordingly. UCMJ is more strict then the civilian counter parts, so I would expect them to be "strung up" alot faster then what is happening.

[blackwatersix]

When was the last time that the US military has actually carried out a death sentence? The last one I know of was Eddie Slovak in WW2.

[alhoon]

This seems strange. The standards of the protectors should be higher than those protected. I.e. if a military officer or police officer breaks the law the penalties should be either harsher or given out faster in my opinion.
That restores confidence to the people and gives the message that those who are responsible to protect them and apprehend the criminals aren't just thugs that boss them around.

[Farnan]

It was 1961 the last time one was executed. They were about to execute one in 2008, but a Federal Grand Jury gave him a stay of execution.

And Hasan Akbar was sentenced to death, it just takes time for appeals.

[blackwatersix]

What happened to the other death penalty cases whose appeals have run out? Were the sentences commuted to life or something, or no death sentences have been handed out since then?

The precedents would play a huge part in how fast the death guys in the OP would be shot or something.

[Farnan]

What happened to the other death penalty cases whose appeals have run out? Were the sentences commuted to life or something, or no death sentences have been handed out since then?

The precedents would play a huge part in how fast the death guys in the OP would be shot or something.

Well for a military man to executed you need to be approved by the President of the United States. And the last one took 13 years for that approval, and has been given a stay but will be executed. Between the last one executed and the one approved in 2008 there were no additions to death row (that were not commuted to life).

[Downey]

You would think, but looks like the US Military now has become plagued by modern day system. Too bad its not a British Man-of-war from the 18th century, steal bread and you get strung up

[blackwatersix]

Aah. I guess we'd have to wait for the appeals to run out to see if Hasan would be executed.

[Mikelus Trento]

The news reports today say that Terrorist Hassan is paralyzed and will never walk again. Such a shame. He won't be able to enjoy the 100 virgins that he thinks await him.

[ELITEOFKINGWARMAN8]

The news reports today say that Terrorist Hassan is paralyzed and will never walk again. Such a shame. He won't be able to enjoy the 100 virgins that he thinks await him.

Thank God!


Besides, I hate how they say "He allegedly killed...."

What the hell you mean he Allegedly killed 13 people?

He DID kill them, not "allegedly"!

[Gaidin]

Thank God!


Besides, I hate how they say "He allegedly killed...."

What the hell you mean he Allegedly killed 13 people?

He DID kill them, not "allegedly"!

It's pretty damn simple. No matter the evidence, no matter the witnesses, you only allegedly committed a crime until you are convicted in a court of law. It's the presumption of innocent until proven guilty. Perhaps you'd like it the other way around and have the burden of proof be on the defense?

[ELITEOFKINGWARMAN8]

It's pretty damn simple. No matter the evidence, no matter the witnesses, you only allegedly committed a crime until you are convicted in a court of law. It's the presumption of innocent until proven guilty. Perhaps you'd like it the other way around and have the burden of proof be on the defense?

Perhaps you don't want to do the logical things in these cases and just give him an guilty verdict? Stop being ethical and start being logical.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Id be surprised if this guy didnt get the rope, but id be even more surprised if they went ahead and killed him so soon, as alhoon suggested.

[alhoon]

It's out of topic, but about that:

Innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the law. Yes, he should be treated as a suspect for mass murder until convicted.
But in the media, to say "Allegedly" in this case with witnesses etc it's a bit streched.

[blackwatersix]

But in the media, to say "Allegedly" in this case with witnesses etc it's a bit streched.

I think its a media CYA against libel.

[alhoon]

I think its a media CYA against libel.

Because of course, so many sane persons would attack the media because they ommited "allegedly" in the case of a nutjob that was witnessed in a shooting that killed 13 men.

Yes, yes I know. Mostly joking.

[MathiasOfAthens]

The rule of all applies to everyone warman, not just to the innocent but to the guilty as well. Everyone is entitled to due process, or did you forget that part.

[ELITEOFKINGWARMAN8]

The rule of all applies to everyone warman, not just to the innocent but to the guilty as well. Everyone is entitled to due process, or did you forget that part.

If there is an doubt about guilt, that is one thing. But he is an murderer, no doubt about it. Sometimes you people just have to wake up. Besides, we going to waste taxpayer's dollars on this.


Again, please be logical.

[Gaidin]

If there is an doubt about guilt, that is one thing. But he is an murderer, no doubt about it. Sometimes you people just have to wake up. Besides, we going to waste taxpayer's dollars on this.


Again, please be logical.

Then it shouldn't be very hard to get a conviction then will it. I have no idea what you're worrying about here. Due process is a fundamental right of everybody accused of anything in this country. They have a right to face their accusers and hear the evidence against them and to attempt to counter the evidence. Your willingness to sacrifice ethics is rather telling, and sickening.

[Simon Cashmere]

You would expect the dead sentences to be handed out quickly and the perpetrators to be delt with accordingly. UCMJ is more strict then the civilian counter parts, so I would expect them to be "strung up" alot faster then what is happening.

Complex cases that take a lot of time to put together and try. And then there are the appeals.