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    Default Where is the road from Minas Tirith to West Osgiliath?

    I was reading the description of the Great Gate in Minas Tirith and it said that there is a road leading from it that goes to Osgiliath. I then realised that actually there is no direct road from Minas Tirith to Osgiliath and I have to trek over wilderness to send troops there causing it to take 2 turns instead of just 1.

    All settlements have roads leading directly to bordering settlements and I dont see why an exception should be made here as it makes building roads in west osgiliath pretty useless other than the increased trade. Can this be changed in a hotfix or patch 1.4?
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    KK said that Gondor is being crushed too easily if there is a direct road from West Osgiliath to Minas Tirith.
    And roads are generated automatically. So if you want a direct road you'd have to make most part of the region between MT and WO unaccesable (is that even a word?).

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    inaccessable.

    Personally, Minas Tirith should also be split into two parts - a lower city (attackable from 5 directions), and then the Core of the city only open to attacks from one direction (having already taken the lower city).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaz View Post
    Personally, Minas Tirith should also be split into two parts - a lower city (attackable from 5 directions), and then the Core of the city only open to attacks from one direction (having already taken the lower city).
    Totally agrees with that. There's already been some discussions made about making Minas Tirith like the capital in Rusichi mod. If people dont know what we're talking about, it's because you haven't try Rusichi yet and if it is the case SHAME ON YOU. Run to the Rusichi forum and try it out! There's a lot of good idea that could be transfer to Third Age...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papine View Post
    Totally agrees with that. There's already been some discussions made about making Minas Tirith like the capital in Rusichi mod. If people dont know what we're talking about, it's because you haven't try Rusichi yet and if it is the case SHAME ON YOU. Run to the Rusichi forum and try it out! There's a lot of good idea that could be transfer to Third Age...
    Indeed DaC are taking that to the hilt - perhaps even THREE settlements for our Minas Tirith - 2 Citadels and a Large city.

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    Default Re: Where is the road from Minas Tirith to West Osgiliath?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaz View Post
    inaccessable.

    Personally, Minas Tirith should also be split into two parts - a lower city (attackable from 5 directions), and then the Core of the city only open to attacks from one direction (having already taken the lower city).
    But that is a great idea!
    The city could be like in Rucshi mod(I dont know how they wrote it but anyway ...) or something similar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Finlander View Post
    But that is a great idea!
    The city could be like in Rucshi mod(I dont know how they wrote it but anyway ...) or something similar.
    No! N. O. - The city can be done as one settlement, it will be done as one settlement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan Frayling View Post
    No! N. O. - The city can be done as one settlement, it will be done as one settlement!
    Why are you against Evan? Would be a lot more lore-wise! IMO it's recruiting 'Citadel Guard' in a city without a citadel that isnt lore wise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papine View Post
    Why are you against Evan? Would be a lot more lore-wise! IMO it's recruiting 'Citadel Guard' in a city without a citadel that isnt lore wise...
    Actually it is a Citadel not a city.
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    Default Re: Where is the road from Minas Tirith to West Osgiliath?

    remember that when osgiliath fell the white city was rapidly besieged, the should be a highway conecting minas tirith and osgiliath, it would make osgiliath more easy to defend and if you loose it it would make a more realistic END jaja

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    The map designer made an error with Minas Tirith and Osgiliath. In the map of Middle Earth and in the movies, Osgiliath is very close to Minas Tirith. If you convert the scale into this Mod, you should be able to move an army to Osgiliath, across the rivir, and into the territory on the other side in one turn. It would make Minas Tirith more important and holding Osgiliath easier.

    There have been many times a siege has been made harder because I couldn't get troops to Osgiliath fast enough (though I've never lost the city).

    Hopefully they'll fix this in a future patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaz View Post
    inaccessable.

    Personally, Minas Tirith should also be split into two parts - a lower city (attackable from 5 directions), and then the Core of the city only open to attacks from one direction (having already taken the lower city).
    Interesting

    Also, I can't remember seeing a road in the movie when Faramir with the Gondorian soldiers + rangers fall back to Minas Tirith from Osgiliath. Then again, we should go after the book but still

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    Default Re: Where is the road from Minas Tirith to West Osgiliath?

    Meh I actually find it makes things harder for me playing as Gondor as I cant reinforce Osgiliath fast enough while Mordor has a much easier time getting troops from Minas Morgul to Eastern Osgiliath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eregost View Post
    Meh I actually find it makes things harder for me playing as Gondor as I cant reinforce Osgiliath fast enough while Mordor has a much easier time getting troops from Minas Morgul to Eastern Osgiliath.

    Agree its very frustrating as one whole turn is waisted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eregost View Post
    Meh I actually find it makes things harder for me playing as Gondor as I cant reinforce Osgiliath fast enough while Mordor has a much easier time getting troops from Minas Morgul to Eastern Osgiliath.
    It's about the AI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seleukos_I. View Post
    It's about the AI.
    The Human Player will be able to get reinforcements to Osgiliath quicker, but if Osgiliath falls, the AI will be able to get armies to Minas Tirith quicker. Surely this emphasises the significance of Osgiliath even more and the reason to defend it? - The city must not fall

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    Hehe ye with some thinking i think we are all just complaining on the city to the right of the river.


    The two cities of osg both favors one side.

    The left favors gondor and the right favors mordor in terms of distance.
    Which in a sense is perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan Frayling View Post
    The Human Player will be able to get reinforcements to Osgiliath quicker, but if Osgiliath falls, the AI will be able to get armies to Minas Tirith quicker. Surely this emphasises the significance of Osgiliath even more and the reason to defend it? - The city must not fall
    Tell that the AI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eregost View Post
    Meh I actually find it makes things harder for me playing as Gondor as I cant reinforce Osgiliath fast enough while Mordor has a much easier time getting troops from Minas Morgul to Eastern Osgiliath.
    With highways, infantries can reach West Osgiliath from Cair Andros in one turn. And take East Osgiliath early to prevent any roads from being built.

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    Default Re: Where is the road from Minas Tirith to West Osgiliath?

    agreed, I am getting owned at WO and EO because of mordor reinforcements get their so quickly. Can we fix this please.

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