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    Default Georgia spends 17% of its GDP on Army

    Seriously, before it was only 9% (around where Germany pays per soldier - but then again the Bundeswehr is only a shadow of the one in the 80's (which wasn't the best but still)).

    Now it's 17%-18% which is around the level of the Soviet spending in 80's (however Soviet Unions "consumer goods economy" was built to be able to handle military production as well, I don't think Georgia has such a system in place anymore so it may be even worse).

    Georgia cannot affoard Saakashvili's meglomania.

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    Default Re: Georgia spends 17% of its GDP on Army

    Yeah well funny thing happens when a bully country with imperialistic aims on your country goes marching thru it destroying stuff, interfering in your internal affairs etc, you tend to want to atleast try and ensure it doesnt happen again even if it is ultimately futile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Yeah well funny thing happens when a bully country with imperialistic aims on your country goes marching thru it destroying stuff, interfering in your internal affairs etc, you tend to want to atleast try and ensure it doesnt happen again even if it is ultimately futile.
    Yeah, its kinda evil - you attack the country's peacekeeper base and than it dares to fight back. This is outrageous!

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    Default Re: Georgia spends 17% of its GDP on Army

    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Yeah well funny thing happens when a bully country with imperialistic aims on your country goes marching thru it destroying stuff, interfering in your internal affairs etc, you tend to want to atleast try and ensure it doesnt happen again even if it is ultimately futile.
    Yea doesn't it suck when a large military power goes rampaging and interferes in other countries internal affairs.
    Good thing Russia is the only country in the world that does that. At least Russia does it on its own borders. Not halfway around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grof View Post
    At least Russia does it on its own borders. Not halfway around the world.
    Yeah, it was decent enough to actually bother and annex the occupied teritorry. Unlike certain superpowers


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    Quote Originally Posted by intel View Post
    Yeah, it was decent enough to actually bother and annex the occupied teritorry. Unlike certain superpowers
    What occupied territory? Anyways arent we supporting self determination as the other superpowers say? Help those being oppressed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by intel View Post
    Yeah, it was decent enough to actually bother and annex the occupied teritorry. Unlike certain superpowers
    Good thing that Russia did not annex anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Yeah well funny thing happens when a bully country with imperialistic aims on your country goes marching thru it destroying stuff, interfering in your internal affairs etc, you tend to want to atleast try and ensure it doesnt happen again even if it is ultimately futile.
    I used to like you Danzig, but now I see you can only accept the American perspective. Consider NATO expansion, which goes against the deal the Yanks made with the Russkies. Consider the fact that it was Georgia that invaded South Ossetia, which was under Russian protection. Consider that Georgia is largely a pawn of American interests in the region, with its political elite being thoroughly American.

    Please take a more critical look at what your own country's foreign policy is.
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    Default Re: Georgia spends 17% of its GDP on Army

    That would be reasonable Danzig, if it wasn't well established that the war was started by Georgia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pious Agnost View Post
    That would be reasonable Danzig, if it wasn't well established that the war was started by Georgia
    And that would be plausible if Russia had any real right to be there in the first place...."peacekeepers" in a region where the home country has a vested interest is dumbest idea ever since new coke. What Georgia "started" was a conflict within its own borders, among its own citizens (granted ones who seek independence).

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    Default Re: Georgia spends 17% of its GDP on Army

    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    And that would be plausible if Russia had any real right to be there in the first place...."peacekeepers" in a region where the home country has a vested interest is dumbest idea ever since new coke. What Georgia "started" was a conflict within its own borders, among its own citizens (granted ones who seek independence).
    I'm not saying Russia is right, I'll leave that to you-know-who (Personally I think they're both wrong), what I'm saying is that Georgia could do better, if they wanted to prevent invasions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    And that would be plausible if Russia had any real right to be there in the first place...."peacekeepers" in a region where the home country has a vested interest is dumbest idea ever since new coke. What Georgia "started" was a conflict within its own borders, among its own citizens (granted ones who seek independence).
    Ahh, the conflict they started was not in their borders, it was in Ossetia. Do you know that anywhere in the USSR or former USSR when referring to Ossetia, Abkhazia, or Georgia they are considered three separate countries? The fact of the matter is that Ossetia was always independent of Georgia until 'father Stalin' and they regained their independence in the early 90's? So Georgia is not the "home country" and never was.

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    Seriously, is no one here shocked that a poor country like Georgia is spending as much money on its army as rich powerful western countries?

    I thought about posting this a month back, but then some over eager admins increased my probation to 6 months and banned me for some warnings...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikitn View Post
    Seriously, is no one here shocked that a poor country like Georgia is spending as much money on its army as rich powerful western countries?

    I thought about posting this a month back, but then some over eager admins increased my probation to 6 months and banned me for some warnings...
    Looks liking trying to kill two birds with one stone, increase govt spending to boost the economy and spend money on military forces for whatever reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirov123 View Post
    Seriously, is no one here shocked that a poor country like Georgia is spending as much money on its army as rich powerful western countries?
    i am

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    Default Re: Georgia spends 17% of its GDP on Army

    Army?

    It should work on it's navy and airforce aswell.
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    The Caucasus Kennedy is fail.
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    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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    Default Re: Georgia spends 17% of its GDP on Army

    could this rise be due to the fact their army was destroyed by russia and now their trying to rebuild?
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    Default Re: Georgia spends 17% of its GDP on Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Pickle_mole View Post
    could this rise be due to the fact their army was destroyed by russia and now their trying to rebuild?
    No rise here, it's perfectly in line with what they used to spend for several years now (ever since Saakashvili came in power).

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    Default Re: Georgia spends 17% of its GDP on Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Pickle_mole View Post
    could this rise be due to the fact their army was destroyed by russia and now their trying to rebuild?
    And why exactly would they want to rebuild..?

    Russian army razed their military infastructure for a reason. So that Georgia wouldn't try the same again.

    Quote Originally Posted by CarbEast View Post
    No rise here, it's perfectly in line with what they used to spend for several years now (ever since Saakashvili came in power).
    The spending rised like 50 times since Saakashvili has come to power, but now it has practically doubled since before the war. This is really disturbing, and reminds me of Hitler's re armament of Germany.

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