Right-wingers launch attack on London Uni

**The Fishman** · November 10, 2009, 06:14 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/no...ity-university

This is where the BNP's support comes from, not 'freedom-loving Britons who want to preserve their indigenous way of life' but from scum like this.

Notice black people are involved as well. This isn't a Nazi attack, it's populist.

**ivan_the_terrible** · November 10, 2009, 06:27 PM

Seems they were targetting people based on religion, not skin colour. Discriminatory, but not racist.

**The Fishman** · November 10, 2009, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by ivan_the_terrible

Seems they were targetting people based on religion, not skin colour. Discriminatory, but not racist.

Practically counts as the same thing in Britain, given that almost all Muslims are not 'white'. I'm on of the exceptions to that, but there aren't many like me.

Can you please think about things before you type?

I did. I thought I would post it, given that we already have plenty of threads about this subject. Besides, the idea of having a forum is that we have a discussion and we all think about it...

A little evidence wouldn't go amiss either.

Its in the Guardian, which is a reputable newspaper. Plus, the Uni's own website has info. What more do you want?

Hey, do you want me to post all the other stories from the other perspective? 60% of racist assaults in Rochdale for example are committed by Asians, despite not yet getting anywhere near that percentage of the population.......

Whilst this is regrettable, three things need to be mentioned:
1. Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus don't exactly get on well, and Asian people are often racist against eachother. I'm not denying the fact that there are hate crimes against white people, just pointing out that there are issues that complicate things here.
2. The majority of racist incidents in the whole country are commited by white people.
3. This is a serious, ongoing series of incidents. Similar events have happened in Ireland to drive out eastern Europeans, and they were on all the news channels.

What exactly are you trying to achieve?

I'm posting an article and voicing my (admittedly quite inflamed right now) opinion.

I hope there are Sikhs attending that uni. The racist scum will get a nice 'surprise' when they mess with them...

**~~The Devil's Sergeant~~** · November 10, 2009, 06:49 PM

Bravo for a sterling example of interracial cooperation! It warms my heart to see blacks and whites working together beat the snot out of somebody different than themselves.

**Syron** · November 10, 2009, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by The Fishman

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/no...ity-university

This is where the BNP's support comes from, not 'freedom-loving Britons who want to preserve their indigenous way of life' but from scum like this.

Notice black people are involved as well. This isn't a Nazi attack, it's populist.

Can you please think about things before you type?

A little evidence wouldn't go amiss either.

Hey, do you want me to post all the other stories from the other perspective? 60% of racist assaults in Rochdale for example are committed by Asians, despite not yet getting anywhere near that percentage of the population.......

What exactly are you trying to achieve?

**s.rwitt** · November 10, 2009, 06:54 PM

Obviously knives should be banned in the UK. Or anything sharp for that matter.

**motiv-8** · November 10, 2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by s.rwitt

Obviously knives should be banned in the UK. Or anything sharp for that matter.

Perhaps bubble-wrap the whole island...

**DekuTrash** · November 10, 2009, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by motiv-8

Perhaps bubble-wrap the whole island...

Now that would get Americas economy back on track. Factory's rolling out sheets of bubble wrap by the mile every day.

**Andurath** · November 11, 2009, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by s.rwitt

Obviously knives should be banned in the UK. Or anything sharp for that matter.

Haha especially when anywhere near anything with alcohol in it, unless of course its a cotton swab in a hospital.
I think this is definitely an overeaction and shameful.

I am christian, but do not hate muslims. I agree that they are often given more free speech than they probably should in fear that they will be persecuted out of hand. By that I mean they are allowed to freely defame others without fear of reprisal. I once went to a court hearing where the muslim family derided all christian values but I was muzzled by the judge when I mentioned one of thier hypocritical acts on the grounds that it was inflamatory. I mean really their entire line of reasoning was inflamatory to me, but ok. I ahve also seen so many dispicable actions on the part of proffessed 'muslims' but am aware of some very peace - loving and non - haters amoung them as well. I can say the same about any religion there. I can't damn the entire religion based on the acts of even a very vocal and visible major minority. I can damn the actions that have led us to this point, and the blame can go in many directions. The unique thing about the Muslim 'issue' is the amount of attention it gets , it has become such a focal that it is seem somewhat out of proportion. There are human rights and violence happening right now in at least 30 countries around the world that we never hear about and other countries that we hear about every day but mums the word for the most part~ many of these have nothing to do with muslims. There are governments that persecutte their own people and ethnic or regional minorities and are protected from our ire because we see the governments as being 'legitimate'(whatever that means: I guess it means your screwed it's our country and we are powerful so stfu)As naieve as many may believe this sounds although it may not be the right time yet we really need to learn to look beyond these differences and history, I can't wait until that becomes the only viable alternative~ the human alternative. Give me a call when we get there I'll be on a beach somewhere waiting lol-jk

**Digbert** · November 11, 2009, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by Phier

And apparently socialists.

Why do people get the right and left wing so confused?

+REP
On different note
Tribalism strikes again dam Human nature.

**Celsius** · November 10, 2009, 11:05 PM

I would call them fascist. Saying there right wingers is implying they could be US Republicans or Conservatives. The BNP is an EXTREME Right Winged party.

**Monarchist** · November 10, 2009, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Celsius

I would call them fascist. Saying there right wingers is implying they could be US Republicans or Conservatives. The BNP is an EXTREME Right Winged party.

I'm afraid you're wrong about that, my friend. Monarchists are the extreme right-wing, and I am proud to be on that half of the circle. The fascists are so far right that they've emerged into the light of day from a cave on the left.

Anyway; violence is not the answer, give peace a chance, etc. etc. blah blah blah. Screw Islam in all its forms.

**Primvs Sextvs Loverlord** · November 10, 2009, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Winterlight

I'm afraid you're wrong about that, my friend. Monarchists are the extreme right-wing, and I am proud to be on that half of the circle. The fascists are so far right that they've emerged into the light of day from a cave on the left.

Anyway; violence is not the answer, give peace a chance, etc. etc. blah blah blah. Screw Islam in all its forms.

People are people no matter what their religion is. Within Muslims, you have so many sub-cultures and sects that are as different from each other as Judaism is from Hinduism.

I honestly don't know what the problem with people is about someone practicing whatever religion in their homes.

**Monarchist** · November 10, 2009, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Mahmud Ghaznavi

People are people no matter what their religion is. Within Muslims, you have so many sub-cultures and sects that are as different from each other as Judaism is from Hinduism.

I honestly don't know what the problem with people is about someone practicing whatever religion in their homes.

Sorry for going off-topic, but I said "Screw Islam in all its forms". This does not imply that people cannot be Muslims, in my eyes; it merely means that I hate Islam, and believe that it is a terrible religion at its core. Muslims can say that all they want about Christianity. That is the glory of the human mind, after all.

**Phier** · November 10, 2009, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Celsius

I would call them fascist. Saying there right wingers is implying they could be US Republicans or Conservatives. The BNP is an EXTREME Right Winged party.

And apparently socialists.

Why do people get the right and left wing so confused?

**Dr. Croccer** · November 11, 2009, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by Phier

And apparently socialists.

Why do people get the right and left wing so confused?

They're National Socialists, meaning that they have elements of both. Apparantly the Right can't accept this but whatever.

In merely economic terms they have left wing elements, but that's a bit irrevelant. Nobody cares about the economics of the BNP (well, apart from a few Righties who apparantly think it is) but the fact that they're ultraconservative, racist, xenophobic and authoritarian generally is deemed more significant by most and places them rather firmly on the Far Right. Similairly, I don't think that most people who think of the Nazis will first think of the fact that they had welfare, and label them Left, but they would rather think of the fact that they were mass-murdering fanatics, who killed anyone who didn't look like or agreed with them, which places them at the Far/Extreme Right.

I would call them fascist. Saying there right wingers is implying they could be US Republicans or Conservatives. The BNP is an EXTREME Right Winged party.

They're Right wingers but extremely Far. They've got elements that moderate Conservatives generally have, but in an extreme form. It's the same case with Communists and Socialists and Anarchists and Liberals. They all have the same founding but very different interpretations. Extreme Right refers to militant, non-conventional groups who often use violence, like Neo-Nazis, not serious political parties.

**mongrel** · November 11, 2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Celsius

I would call them fascist. Saying there right wingers is implying they could be US Republicans or Conservatives. The BNP is an EXTREME Right Winged party.

Keep it simple, I would call them morons.

**byzantineklibanophori** · November 11, 2009, 12:08 AM

Theres a lot of material written by Muslims that are extremely offensive but we don't cry like murder about it. Free speech is wonderful, if only it was a two way street.

**Syriana** · November 11, 2009, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by byzantineklibanophori

Theres a lot of material written by Muslims that are extremely offensive but we don't cry like murder about it. Free speech is wonderful, if only it was a two way street.

The middle-class white Christian is obviously the new minority.

**Poach** · November 11, 2009, 03:52 AM

I did have a good laugh at the OP trying to gte his bit in against the BNP. I don't much care for the BNP either but really Fishman, there were black people involved too. They must be pretty lost and confused black people if they wander around in pro-BNP hate gangs, don't you think?