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    Default Sweden Lutheran Church Ordains First Openly Lesbian Bishop

    http://www.metronews.ca/toronto/live/article/364182

    What a shame . It seems Protestantism is facing decline indeed.
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    Good on her I suppose

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    Damn lesbians ruining my Jesus!

    But no, really, who cares? If she wants to be a bishop and the church says she can than good for her.

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    I used to share a flat with a lesbian couple. I hope they are better in the matters of spirit than keeping household clean
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    That's hot .

    But seriously , good for her.

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    Sweden's christianity seems to be advancing far faster then the rest of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-hereticK View Post
    Sweden's christianity seems to be advancing far faster then the rest of the world.
    Considering that most people either don't care, are agnostics or atheists in Sweden (I'm an atheist), this shouldn't come as much of a surprise imo. Even the somewhat ''christian'' people like my mother practically have no differences in their lives compared to atheists (she believes in god and respects religion, that's about it), there are very few real religious people left. Thankfully this trend is continuing at a good pace due to enlightenment in recent times, soon we can dispose of the church and all organized religion.

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    I don't see how they can even call themselves a Church when they openly deny the teachings of Christ.


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    Jesus said that openly lesbian women should not become bishops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythos View Post
    Jesus said that openly lesbian women should not become bishops?
    Lol......................oh zing.

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    Jesus said that openly lesbian women should not become bishops?
    apparently we are to stone them to death aswell, And gay men. And kids that swear at there parents. And adulter's hmm did i miss anyone im sure there's more.

    Hmm it seems nobody is following jesus teachings.

    Maybe it has something to do with society creating religion , not god. And back then those things were accepted by society but they arent anymore so religion has changed with society. You see how that works?

    Maybe in a couple more hundred years when society changes more the bible will be interpreted correctly once more and we'll get *drum roll*

    The new testament part 2 or The newest testament. Hmm maybe the Newer testament? Ah im sure they'll find a good name for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizav85 View Post
    apparently we are to stone them to death aswell, And gay men. And kids that swear at there parents. And adulter's hmm did i miss anyone im sure there's more.

    Hmm it seems nobody is following jesus teachings.

    Maybe it has something to do with society creating religion , not god. And back then those things were accepted by society but they arent anymore so religion has changed with society. You see how that works?
    Friend, sorry to intervene, but you are mistaken a bit. Those rules about stoning homosexuals are in the Old Testament. Jesus never said that. His teachings are sometimes clouded by imperfect translation and are open to many interpretations. Of course his main ideas are quite clear - love, tolerance, goodness, conscience etc. Sometimes I´m astonished that these simple and universal ideas have prevailed in spite of all the efforts of religious zealots and literalists
    But you´re certainly right about religion being created and shaped by society. Sadly the message of Jesus is often practiced with a good deal of narrow-mindedness. In my view this lesbian bishop must be a remarkable woman with an extraordinary life experience. Her appointment as a bishop doesn´t go against the teachings of Jesus, but the opposite
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    Friend, sorry to intervene, but you are mistaken a bit. Those rules about stoning homosexuals are in the Old Testament. Jesus never said that.
    He never said it no. But he did say..

    He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms."

    "Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures."
    Everything moses , the prophets and the psalms wrote must be fulfilled (old testament).

    So jesus says we must stone homosexuals as it is written in the law of moses.

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    Sweet. Good for her. And that's hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis XI View Post
    http://www.metronews.ca/toronto/live/article/364182

    What a shame . It seems Protestantism is facing decline indeed.
    Good for them, and bigots.

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    Sigh, this is the word of God. If you change your interpretation of it every other day because of the mob outside the gates, then whats the point of even having it? The Scandinavians might as well just go full atheism, they already are the least religious nations in the west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Valle View Post
    Sigh, this is the word of God. If you change your interpretation of it every other day because of the mob outside the gates, then whats the point of even having it? The Scandinavians might as well just go full atheism, they already are the least religious nations in the west.
    Oh yeah, because you would recognise the Christianity of 100AD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Oh yeah, because you would recognise the Christianity of 100AD.
    Well I do try to follow Augustinian Catholicism, which is pretty close .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Valle View Post
    Well I do try to follow Augustinian Catholicism, which is pretty close .
    Close does not count by your standards. You were talking about the "Word of God" a few posts above. If you think the bible is the word of god, why don't you stone that woman? Or any gay you meet? You are going to get eternal life afterall, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythos View Post
    Close does not count by your standards. You were talking about the "Word of God" a few posts above. If you think the bible is the word of god, why don't you stone that woman? Or any gay you meet? You are going to get eternal life afterall, right?
    ...

    The New testament signified a new covenant between man and God, that doesn't apply to Christians.
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