Man Gets Tased For No Apparent Reason

[TestudoAubreii]

Hey everyone,

I saw this on YouTube and thought I'd share it here in the mudpit. This first guy seemed to be doing nothing wrong, I mean he had his hands on the hood of the police car and the officer puts a taser to the back of his neck and then proceeds to apply it until he is unconscious. I don't know what happened before he was tasered, but I guess it would have to be pretty bad, right? I don't know if there is enough from that video alone to say what really happened, but to me it seemed a bit excessive.

The second guy, well I just thought it was pretty funny and that you all may get a kick out of it. The officers told him that he was under arrest for a warrant, but they wouldn't tell him what for and actually told him that it didn't matter, that he was being arrested anyway. Aside from the obvious fact that the second guy is a bit annoying, do the police not have the responsibility to tell the guy what he is being arrested for? I don't know, that's a tough one to call...legally.

Here it is:




morrisonicus

Edit by VP adding the article:

http://wcco.com/crime/taser.neck.minneapolis.2.1287716.html

The Minneapolis Police Department is again defending itself against accusations that an officer went too far during an arrest.

Video given to WCCO-TV late Monday night shows a man with his hands on a squad car when an officer uses a Taser on his neck.

Attorney Albert Goins is suing the City of Minneapolis on behalf of his client, Rolando Ruiz. They're asking for $75,000 and that the officer involved be reprimanded.

The video given to WCCO starts only seconds before the Taser is used on Ruiz, not what led up to the incident. But in that time, no struggle can be seen before the officer used his Taser on Ruiz. What is seen is Ruiz with his hands on the hood of the officer's car.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

The dash camera of the squad car was rolling when the officer approached Ruiz with Taser in hand.

"Takes that Taser, puts it to the back of his neck and shocks him until he is incapacitated on the ground, slumped before the squad car," said Albert Goins.

Goins says his client's civil rights were violated. He wants the city to settle the claim out of court. If not, he says he and his client are prepared to take their case to federal court.

A Minneapolis police spokesperson says Chief Tim Dolan has not seen the tape. The department is not saying anything about the incident, because it is now a legal matter.

The officer named in the incident has not yet been independently confirmed by WCCO. There were a number of officers on the scene.

[motiv-8]

Wow. I mean.. the video doesn't give all the details, but ... wow.

"What is the charge?"

"It doesn't matter."

W... T ... F. No, has to be staged.

[TestudoAubreii]

Wow. I mean.. the video doesn't give all the details, but ... wow.

"What is the charge?"

"It doesn't matter."

W... T ... F. No, has to be staged.

...or something, I mean the second guy looked like he got a volt of energy from the taser. He was out of there right after they tased him. Crazy.

Seriously, everyone has the right to question authority, especially when you don't even know what you are being arrested for and you have no control. Pity.

morrisonicus

[Ænema]

...or something, I mean the second guy looked like he got a volt of energy from the taser. He was out of there right after they tased him. Crazy.

Seriously, everyone has the right to question authority, especially when you don't even know what you are being arrested for and you have no control. Pity.

morrisonicus

Wrong. You don't make a hissy fit to the officer when he's arresting you. You make it in court in front of the judge.

You just hate police, that's all.

That officer went too far. Does that mean all police officers "taze" the living out of people without a reason? No. In fact, most officers don't even use their tazers, weapons, batons, pepper spray, and rarely resort to physical contact to bring down a suspect. Stop trying to sterotype all police officers as "Nazis" who "abuse power" on helpless citizens; or that they are actively searching for the next person to stop next on the side of the road to harass them. If you knew anything about police work and what police do most of the time you'd see that they couldn't care less about what some dude is doing on the street (If it's obvious it's not illegal). We know, kids these days LOVE to question power and act all bad ass like they are above the law and superman.

On a side note: this incide is pretty old. Care to move on and stop making a big ing deal about this?

[Katsumoto]

Wrong. You don't make a hissy fit to the officer when he's arresting you. You make it in court in front of the judge.

Some people have stuff to do, they can't be wasting time going to court over changing their name. Oh and those cops on the second vid part failed big time, they have him on the ground the whole time, then when they tase him he gets away. C'mon guys.

[TestudoAubreii]

Wrong. You don't make a hissy fit to the officer when he's arresting you. You make it in court in front of the judge.

You just hate police, that's all.

Don't presume to know how I feel about anything. I don't "hate police", I don't like anyone who abuses their power. Police offers are here to enforce the law, they are not the law. If you are being arrested, but you don't know what you are being arrested for, you don't think that you have the right to question the officers decision to arrest you? Have you ever been to jail? Even for a night? It's not a thing that you would be like:

Officer: "You are under arrest."

Me: "Why am I being arrested?"

Officer: "It doesn't matter."

Me: "Oh...alright then, I'll cooperate and spend some time in jail and then take it in front of the judge when there ready to see me."

No thanks. This is one of the things that sucks, if you are already in the scenario above, chances are that you are going to jail anyway, no matter what. I mean, I understand that police officers have a rough job and have to use their judgment in certain situations, but you can't just going around arresting citizens without a reason. I'm not just talking about the video, I mean in general.

morrisonicus

[Gaidin]

Don't presume to know how I feel about anything. I don't "hate police", I don't like anyone who abuses their power. Police offers are here to enforce the law, they are not the law. If you are being arrested, but you don't know what you are being arrested for, you don't think that you have the right to question the officers decision to arrest you? Have you ever been to jail? Even for a night? It's not a thing that you would be like:

Officer: "You are under arrest."

Me: "Why am I being arrested?"

Officer: "It doesn't matter."

Me: "Oh...alright then, I'll cooperate and spend some time in jail and then take it in front of the judge when there ready to see me."

No thanks. This is one of the things that sucks, if you are already in the scenario above, chances are that you are going to jail anyway, no matter what. I mean, I understand that police officers have a rough job and have to use their judgment in certain situations, but you can't just going around arresting citizens without a reason. I'm not just talking about the video, I mean in general.

morrisonicus

Police arent' the most worried about the accuracy or legitimacy of their charges when defusing or dealing with a situation in the field. It's a well known fact they prefer to err on the side of caution and then just release the person with no charges filed. This is perfectly sensible from any point of view if you can somehow convince yourself to look at it logically instead of emotionally. And there is a legitimate reason to arrest someone at least 99% of the time. The question that brings up is if charges can and will follow.

[johncage]

...or something, I mean the second guy looked like he got a volt of energy from the taser. He was out of there right after they tased him. Crazy.

Seriously, everyone has the right to question authority, especially when you don't even know what you are being arrested for and you have no control. Pity.

morrisonicus

if you don't follow instructions, your only right is to get a bolt of electricity into your body. when something like this happens, 100 percent of the time, the suspect was being a putz.

seriously people, it's not hard. running from or resisting a guy with a gun or a taser is just asking for it.

[Dr. Croccer]

Jeaus ing Christ...

[Barry Goldwater]

Wow...just...wow.

That's royally ed up.

[Helm]

I'm sure they had a reason. Even if the reason runs along the lines of they can and it's fun.

[Last Roman]

I'm sure they had a reason. Even if the reason runs along the lines of they can and it's fun.

Not so sure. The Minneapolis PD is known for "going beyond the call of duty"

(i.e. they're jackasses)

[Viking Prince]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

This does not look like a legit news item. It clearly is not a current news item if you were to check the archives at wcco.com. This is not from one of their own broadcasts. There is no printed news item on this.

This is a poorly documented post and does not seem to follow the following debating forum rules:

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4) Do not post images or videos without some clear supporting text discussion. Posts with image or video trolls and other spam posting will be removed at the discretion of the moderators.

5) Avoid any form of misrepresentation. Do not state that something is fact or a well known fact just because you read it in a message board, website or blog. Statements made in blogs or amateur videos are not acceptable foundations for new threads.

As such, this appears to be off topic for the forum. I shall move the thread to Thema Devia. If there is a question on this, please contact me.

VP

EDIT: Article and link added to the original post -- the incident appears to be current news. The thread has been returned to the the Mudpit.

[DekuTrash]

Wow that second guy managed to get away!


YAHWEH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lord of Lost Socks]

You really should only use a taser when you're threatened. Or if the person tries to escape. All other circumstances are unjustifiable.
I remember seeing a vid on youtube once with Fox News defending a case of a police tasering a guy with diabetes.
Cops should really be punished for doing stupid like this. Because normal people do too.

Edit: Found it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP1-sGGLwZo

[motiv-8]

You really should only use a taser when you're threatened. Or if the person tries to escape. All other circumstances are unjustifiable.
I remember seeing a vid on youtube once with Fox News defending a case of a police tasering a guy with diabetes.
Cops should really be punished for doing stupid like this. Because normal people do too.

Edit: Found it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP1-sGGLwZo

WOW. A good friend of mine actually went into diabetic shock on the way to get some food and was pulled over by the police, and had to be wrestled to the ground because he was supposeldy being aggressive. They initially thought he was high on heroin. If this had happened to him, there would have been new s being created.

[Lord of Lost Socks]

WOW. A good friend of mine actually went into diabetic shock on the way to get some food and was pulled over by the police, and had to be wrestled to the ground because he was supposeldy being aggressive. They initially thought he was high on heroin. If this had happened to him, there would have been new s being created.

To be honest, if someone starts getting spasm and falls on the ground regardless of you think he uses drugs, the response should be ---------> hospital. Not: Tase the sucker 'til he stops moving.

[Mythos]

Let's see what the "police is always right" crowd are going to say about these. Should be fun.

[Syriana]

$75'000 for being Tazed?

Is that based on mental anguish charges or something?

As excessive and disproportional as the use of the Tazer was, I doubt it warrants that quantity of monetary compensation.

[Helm]

If I was evil and a policeman I'd saying something like "Hey are you ticklish? Lets find out!" when drawing a taser.