CTD in battles

**owen** · November 09, 2009, 05:37 AM

Hi i have had a look on the forum already but theres nothing specific to my problem, i play a battle and it always crashes within about 3 minutes of me starting, the sound goes a bit glitchy and then it CTDs, with no error message even tho i have show-err, its just says rome has stopped working. i was wondering if i should revert back to the old music?? if so how?? never had problems with 1.5c but 1.6 just keeps crashing.
thanks

**owen** · November 09, 2009, 05:39 AM

also i forgot to mention that i am using the RTW thats on sega and already patched to 1.5, dont know if that helps, its the one sold in the white label case, and im on vista aswell. im not the most computer ieterate person as u can probably tell so all help is needed

(EDIT) only just read ur edit bit at the end sorry.

afraid i dont know my specs sorry but its not a bad pc per say, my brother built it and it handles empire on full settings with 400 men units, not sure if that helps but it always handles high powerd games, play on high settings with huge units, no lag or anything just the sound is glitchy. im reinstalling now in a folder outside the programe files, i tried changing autosave to false before but it didnt work. could it be the sound??

**Brusilov** · November 09, 2009, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by owen

Hi i have had a look on the forum already but theres nothing specific to my problem, i play a battle and it always crashes within about 3 minutes of me starting, the sound goes a bit glitchy and then it CTDs, with no error message even tho i have show-err, its just says rome has stopped working. i was wondering if i should revert back to the old music?? if so how?? never had problems with 1.5c but 1.6 just keeps crashing.
thanks

The first thing to do is to reduce your graphic levels to see if that is what is causing the CTD (as they are known to be the killer of RTW mods).

If the game still crashes as a test reduce all graphic levels to the minimum and then see if the game still crashes. If it does then it's something else.

Please post your system specifications and graphic options.

Edited: If you post back with no replies to your previous post please use the EDIT button to update your previous post (as I have done) rather than add another one.

**owen** · November 09, 2009, 05:43 AM

afraid i dont know my specs sorry but its not a bad pc per say, my brother built it and it handles empire on full settings with 400 men units, not sure if that helps but it always handles high powerd games, play on high settings with huge units, no lag or anything just the sound is glitchy. im reinstalling now in a folder outside the programe files, i tried changing autosave to false before but it didnt work. could it be the sound??

**Brusilov** · November 09, 2009, 05:51 AM

You can find your system specifications by running dxdiag (from the run dialog box) and then attach the details. Does your system have a sound card?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

RTW is an older game and won't use multiple cores so the machine you are using won't be as good running RTW as it does ETW.

**owen** · November 09, 2009, 06:02 AM

heres the specs:-----------------
System Information
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Time of this report: 11/9/2009, 11:58:44
Machine name: OWNER-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090805-0102)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 2126MB used, 6272MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode
------------
DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 9600 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0622&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1
Display Memory: 2796 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1005 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: HP w2216 Wide LCD Monitor
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver Version: 8.16.0011.9107 (English)
DDI Version: 10
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 9/27/2009 22:12:22, 9441384 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4562-11CF-2340-0B201EC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0622
SubSys ID: 0x00000000
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Sound Devices
-------------
Description: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0883&SUBSYS_1043829E&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.5840.16387 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 11/2/2006 05:28:10, 273920 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Description: Digital Output Device (SPDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0883&SUBSYS_1043829E&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.5840.16387 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 11/2/2006 05:28:10, 273920 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
---------------------
Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.5840.16387 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/2/2006 05:28:10, 273920 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF
Description: Line In (High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.5840.16387 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/2/2006 05:28:10, 273920 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF
-------------------
DirectInput Devices
-------------------
Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: SideWinder Force Feedback 2 Joystick
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x001B
FF Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\pid.dll
FF Driver Date: 11/2/2006 15:01:40
FF Driver Version: 6.00.6000.16386
FF Driver Size: 36352 bytes
Device Name: USB Wireless HID Receiver
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x04F2, 0x0420
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: USB Wireless HID Receiver
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x04F2, 0x0420
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: USB Wireless HID Receiver
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x04F2, 0x0420
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: USB Wireless HID Receiver
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x04F2, 0x0420
FF Driver: n/a
Poll w/ Interrupt: No
-----------
USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x10DE, 0x026D
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
|
+-+ USB Human Interface Device
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x001B
| | Location: Port_#0002.Hub_#0001
| | Matching Device ID: usb\class_03
| | Service: HidUsb
| | OEMData: 03 00 08 10 08 00 00 00
| |
| +-+ HID-compliant game controller
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x001B
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_game
| | | OEMData: 03 00 08 10 08 00 00 00
----------------
Gameport Devices
----------------
------------
PS/2 Devices
------------
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x04F2, 0x0420
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
|
+ PS/2 Compatible Mouse
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Service: i8042prt
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x04F2, 0x0420
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
------------------------
Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
------------------------
Drive: C:
Free Space: 21.7 GB
Total Space: 152.6 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: Hitachi HDT721016SLA SCSI Disk Device
Drive: D:
Model: Optiarc DVD-ROM DDU1675A ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), , 0 bytes
Drive: E:
Model: PHILIPS PBDV824DP ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), , 0 bytes
Drive: F:
Model: XUZQJ V0LYFSPYR SCSI CdRom Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), , 0 bytes
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System Devices
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Name: VIA USB Enhanced Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3104&SUBSYS_31041106&REV_63\4&239594EF&0&3280
Driver: n/a
Name: VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3044&SUBSYS_81FE1043&REV_C0\4&239594EF&0&4080
Driver: n/a
Name: VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_30381106&REV_61\4&239594EF&0&3180
Driver: n/a
Name: VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_30381106&REV_61\4&239594EF&0&3080
Driver: n/a
Name: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0622&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\6&3F5D1B5&0&00000018
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05BF&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\5&30CF49DD&0&180018
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05BF&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\5&30CF49DD&0&100018
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05BF&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\5&30CF49DD&0&080018
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05BF&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\5&30CF49DD&0&000018
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05BF&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\4&1FF9B3FA&0&0018
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03BC&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&11
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03BB&SUBSYS_000010DE&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&38
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03BA&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&12
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03B9&SUBSYS_000010DE&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&30
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03B7&SUBSYS_000010DE&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&18
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03B6&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&10
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03B5&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&06
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03B4&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&07
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03B3&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&0E
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03B2&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&0D
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03B1&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&0C
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03B0&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&0B
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03AF&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&0A
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03AE&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&09
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03AD&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&08
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03AC&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&01
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03AB&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&04
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03AA&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&02
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03A9&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&03
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03A8&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&2411E6FE&0&05
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03A3&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&2411E6FE&0&00
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0272&SUBSYS_81BC1043&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&52
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0270&SUBSYS_81BC1043&REV_A2\3&2411E6FE&0&48
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_026F&SUBSYS_CB8410DE&REV_A2\3&2411E6FE&0&80
Driver: n/a
Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_026E&SUBSYS_81BC1043&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&59
Driver: n/a
Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_026D&SUBSYS_81BC1043&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&58
Driver: n/a
Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_026C&SUBSYS_829E1043&REV_A2\3&2411E6FE&0&81
Driver: n/a
Name: NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0269&SUBSYS_82211043&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&A0
Driver: n/a
Name: NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0267&SUBSYS_81BC1043&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&78
Driver: n/a
Name: NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0266&SUBSYS_81BC1043&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&70
Driver: n/a
Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0265&SUBSYS_81BC1043&REV_A1\3&2411E6FE&0&68
Driver: n/a
Name: NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0264&SUBSYS_81BC1043&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&51
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard ISA bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0260&SUBSYS_81BC1043&REV_A3\3&2411E6FE&0&50
Driver: n/a

Hope that hlps, dont know how much u needed so i just posted all of it lol. thanks for the help, i know im slow

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