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    I am very happily getting acquainted with the new FoE campaign goodies. I am playing as Romans and I want to know if is there anything I should have in mind as far as micromanagement goes. Buildings, trade and resources?
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    Surely, that's FoE rather than AoE?

    I've just started a Cisipane Gaul campaign and it took ages before my treasury was in the black - at one stage I went down to 56K in the red. I've sent diplomats to everyone I can find and managed to get trade rights. I built up the fishmongers to get a health bonus and trade bonus.

    Don't recruit any new units or retrain your depleted forces as it's a killer.

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    Went under 50k and didn't give up, welcome Vercigetorix
    Sorry FoE is what I meant.
    I wont replenish my forces until I really need them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brusilov View Post
    Surely, that's FoE rather than AoE?

    I've just started a Cisipane Gaul campaign and it took ages before my treasury was in the black - at one stage I went down to 56K in the red. I've sent diplomats to everyone I can find and managed to get trade rights. I built up the fishmongers to get a health bonus and trade bonus.

    Don't recruit any new units or retrain your depleted forces as it's a killer.
    I think diplomats are rather expensive in upkeep (like all agents). So try to have as few of them as possible.

    Also, if you chose the right settings, it's very possible to have black numbers right from the start of the campaign, without disbanding any units.

    See, I'm making 624 denarii:
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    What I did is set taxes in:

    • Bononia to High
    • Mediolanum to Very High
    • The two mini-region to Very High

    The population growth in my cities after applying those taxes is:

    • Bononia 0.5%
    • Mediolanum 0.5%
    • Mini-regions -1%

    The mini-regions don't have to grow. They are designed not to do so anyway: they can't recruit any units, they can only build a trader and some roads, they will never be able to upgrade to the next settlement level.

    You can make more profit (if you want to maintain a big army for example) by getting some trade rights. The Barbaroi are a good candidate (if you don't have trade rights with them from the start though, not sure anymore)

    What I did here with the Cisalpine Gauls is basically what you have to do for most factions and you can be sure of a healthy economy.

    I hope that helps
    Last edited by Pat89; November 08, 2009 at 01:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatricianS View Post
    I think diplomats are rather expensive in upkeep (like all agents). So try to have as few of them as possible.

    Also, if you chose the right settings, it's very possible to have black numbers right from the start of the campaign, without disbanding any units.

    See, I'm making 624 denarii:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    What I did is set taxes in:

    • Bononia to High
    • Mediolanum to Very High
    • The two mini-region to Very High

    The population growth in my cities after applying those taxes is:

    • Bononia 0.5%
    • Mediolanum 0.5%
    • Mini-regions -1%

    The mini-regions don't have to grow. They are designed not to do so anyway: they can't recruit any units, they can only build a trader and some roads, they will never be able to upgrade to the next settlement level.

    You can make more profit (if you want to maintain a big army for example) by getting some trade rights. The Barbaroi are a good candidate (if you don't have trade rights with them from the start though, not sure anymore)

    What I did here with the Cisalpine Gauls is basically what you have to do for most factions and you can be sure of a healthy economy.

    I hope that helps
    I set all the taxes to very high. I started with two diplomats - I didn't train any more. I seem to recall I built fisheries in the first turn.

    The only thing I didn't do was to refuse any adoptions. I did that a couple of times later on though.

    The only faction I had trade rights from the start was the Romans as they were my allies. I tried to get trade with the settlement to the NE in Italy but they refused - we are at war at the start. When I had an alliance with the Barbaroi I suddenly found that I had trade with this other faction.....

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    Oh, something I forgot to mention... IGNORE ALL ADOPTION OFFERS!!

    You will be grated many adoption offers throughout the entire game, however generals are VERY expensive. If you have too many generals, then your economy won't be able to handle it. To get rid of them, simply put them on a small ship and go hunting for pirates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatricianS View Post
    Oh, something I forgot to mention... IGNORE ALL ADOPTION OFFERS!!

    You will be grated many adoption offers throughout the entire game, however generals are VERY expensive. If you have too many generals, then your economy won't be able to handle it. To get rid of them, simply put them on a small ship and go hunting for pirates.

    One time i put a stack and a half of generals alone on 2 ships and went pirate hunting, my income boosted several thousand denarii per turn after a year or so
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeCanada View Post
    One time i put a stack and a half of generals alone on 2 ships and went pirate hunting, my income boosted several thousand denarii per turn after a year or so
    When Queen Elizabeth commissioned Francis Drake and his friends to go hunting on the high seas, she wasn't expecting to capture treasure, she was just trying to get rid of his upkeep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pannonian View Post
    When Queen Elizabeth commissioned Francis Drake and his friends to go hunting on the high seas, she wasn't expecting to capture treasure, she was just trying to get rid of his upkeep.
    lol


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    I play Campaign as Epeiros - things goes quite well, but I am 200k in red numbers. And every turn i get about more 20k more to red. So far i beat the asses of Romans quiet easily and lot but it think my breath would eventually come to short.
    Last edited by sirmic; November 09, 2009 at 08:45 AM. Reason: correcting of typos

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    Can you post a screen of your current situation? Maybe someone will be able to help you then

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    Hello and thanks for the wonderful mod!

    i've a few questions about starting as Epeiros/
    i'm playing on h/h and it's a first turn

    I defeated romans near Heracleia and somehow managed to get Grudimentum,
    then defeated two stacks of sicilian rebels.

    now questions:
    how it is possible to pacify Grudimentum - i destroyed roman policy there and started to build my occupation - but it gives only 5% happiness? if i continue - i always get a revolt there,
    then how should i manage economy? what to build first? different workshops, trade route or economical and social development?
    then

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    Re the Occupation and all other Policy buildings, It's true that you can only see it gives a 5% happiness. But in reality it will give a 25% happiness bonus due to NCR (don't ask what that is, just accept it ). If you build your next Policy level you will be granted an even bigger happiness bonus. So all you have to do is keep your settlement happy with low taxes and a large garrison until you have at least a level two Policy building. From that point on you should be relatively safe

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    Thanks
    I've just tried few strategies and doing great

    after third turn i own cannae and arpi (which i sacked completely and want to give back)
    hiero will take rhegion in two turns and pyrrhus is marching to Paestum

    economy is also improved after i constructed some buildings with all my starting treasury

    for bigger happiness it's good to move your capital to tarentum

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    for bigger happiness it's good to move your capital to tarentum
    This will not have big effect in your happiness since the bonus given by the Capital just occurs in your original capital.
    Build Epirote Hegemony I and Epirote Hegemony II to help in holding the new conquer region and too expand your influence, in the other region, if you notice the more influence in a region least arrest in the region and in can cause revolt in your rival region, conquer the mini-regions first.
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