View Poll Results: How difficult? It's a 1(easy)-10(hard) poll!

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  • 1 Pffft... this is a joke. You guys are noobs.

    0 0%
  • 2 It's not terribly easy... it could be better!

    0 0%
  • 3 Fun kicking butt but I get powerful too quick.

    3 11.11%
  • 4 Eh, caught me off guard a couple times.

    4 14.81%
  • 5 It certainly has it's moments.

    3 11.11%
  • 6 Lots of stacks but I'm kind of managing.

    4 14.81%
  • 7 Lots of stacks and I'm suffering!

    3 11.11%
  • 8 Uh, restarting games is commonplace.

    3 11.11%
  • 9 Omg, can't play half the factions! HRE? Wth?

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  • 10 Impossible! Screw this, I'm going back to 6.1.

    1 3.70%
  • I've heard about it but I've yet to try 6.2.

    5 18.52%
  • What's 6.2 and how do I get it?

    1 3.70%
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Thread: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

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    KittySN's Avatar Senator
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    Default Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    Simple poll. Some think it's impossible, others manageable, a few easy but monotonous. What do you think? And if you could change something to alter the difficulty more to your preferences, what would you change?

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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    The thing I would change is more realism on alliances etc. I think it's stupid that the factions which you border with always want to attack you, even when they are at war with other factions. Also I would like to see more realism at alliances. When you are a very strong faction I think it would be realistic that little factions would like to alliance with you to keep their lands safe, instead of attacking you.

    Let the big ones battle eachother, and the little ones choose a side to join and trying to get some profit out of it.

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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    If anything, I wish one could get the AI to double-team with alliances and multiple stacks more often. For example, there's nothing more fun than having Lithuania and Novgorod attack me together. Alas, I suspect it's not possible... just the random happening that 2 allied armies are near an ememy, or 2 enemy stacks happen to be in the same place at the same time. I wonder if there's a way to increase the player's threat to the AI, making the units "appear" more powerful thus prompting the AI to use multiple stacks for a single player's settlement/army.

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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    @KittySN: Wow... you're insane! Being the strat map fan that I am, I HATE multiple full stacks. I suck at RT battles (lousy micromanagement mostly + troops not always obeying me), so multiple stacks usually spell death for me.
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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    best thing about multistacks is that normally... each one sucks, so you just keep whooping them, retraining and fighting them again, soon you have forces that cut through stacks like butter
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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    Well, I figured it'd be ideal for the AI to specifically target weak areas with overwhelming numbers. Retraining troops to cut through stacks like butter is hard if they all die. I also more specific settlements were targeted and not just outlying settlements. It makes it easier to defend if you just have to watch your borders. March those stacks right into the player's heartland!

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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    Better AI would be nice, yes. And 'real' alliances too.
    BTW: I voted 6, playing on VH/VH.
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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    Oh yes! More sea invasions! I love seeing Scotland, Norway, Denmark, Moors, Sicily and Spain do it! Nothing like having that full stack unload on your coast far away from any of your defenses!

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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    If you wanted to mod, in descr_strat (I think) there is a thing under each faction that says Prefers Naval Invasion, then a yes or no. I could be wrong, but changing some nos to yeses may make naval invasions happen more often.

    Please note that I have not tried this, so if someone were to undertake this, it would be at their own risk
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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    You mean in descr_sm_factions.txt, in the data folder. Other part is right. Maybe I should try that too. I probally have a backup somewhere, so there is no 'risk'.
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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    So the difficulty does fit most people ?

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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    Need more pain. Pain good. Was waiting for you to bump this. What's up with that battle AI thread that someone bumped too. And what is the best AI? Or am I already playing it? I used to play using Lusted but I don't know what's installed with 6.2.

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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    Best BAI? Really Bad AI....
    6.2 default BAI is Lusted's

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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    That's what I had figured but wasn't positive. Seemed very "Lusted."

    I'll have to give Really Bad AI a run sometime soon.

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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    I love it, sometime sit feels that you are playing against human opponent. Almost.
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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    i lost my Lithuanian VH VH campaign. on 6.2/1.3 I gave up after around 50 turns. I'm pretty screwed, losted one major army at sea, lost Reval to my in-laws (the Russian), on my way of losing Thorn to the HRE. with my only real army that took Visby in an epic battle (500 cav lost 20 men and killed a total of 2000 enemy) stuck in Scandinavia.

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    Default Re: Difficulty of SS6.2 "vanilla" on VH/VH?

    well...it makes me have to play all of my battles instead of autoresolve..

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