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  • Hannibal

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  • Phyrrus of Epirus

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  • Alexander the Great

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    Default Who would win in a battle?

    Hannibal or Alexander the Great or Phyrrus of Epirus?

    I would say Hannibal. After looking at the battle of cannae, I'd say no one of those been able to accomplish what he has done.

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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    oh no
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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    Pointless thread, and Monarchism, get a better name.
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    You can not judge commanders on battles that they have not and will never fight. The tactics Hannibal used were not new they had been used before that in history encircling your enemey was a very ancient tactic. Phyrrus would have used Alexanders tactics but was not as successful. Alexander had the most skilled army and best strategy, he also had a quick grasp of tactics. By default it would be Alexander but if you gave these commanders and equal force with troop types they were unfamilier with how would they fare? How could we judge this when it will never happen? This is a very poor thread.



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    Pyrrhus would win, but at extreme cost!

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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Poach View Post
    Pyrrhus would win, but at extreme cost!
    a phyric victory perhaps
    "Therefore I am not in favour of raising any dogmatic banner. On the contrary, we must try to help the dogmatists to clarify their propositions for themselves. Thus, communism, in particular, is a dogmatic abstraction; in which connection, however, I am not thinking of some imaginary and possible communism, but actually existing communism as taught by Cabet, Dézamy, Weitling, etc. This communism is itself only a special expression of the humanistic principle, an expression which is still infected by its antithesis – the private system. Hence the abolition of private property and communism are by no means identical, and it is not accidental but inevitable that communism has seen other socialist doctrines – such as those of Fourier, Proudhon, etc. – arising to confront it because it is itself only a special, one-sided realisation of the socialist principle."
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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    Quote Originally Posted by dogukan View Post
    a phyric victory perhaps
    That is indeed one way of describing it.

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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    All 3 had completely different tactics for some very different situations, it's simply incomparable.

    Alexander was probably the greatest commander of them though.
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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    Misspelled and cheesy nonetheless.
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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheUnknownEntity View Post
    Misspelled and cheesy nonetheless.
    yeah an h is missing...but then again, I always make mistakes typing
    "Therefore I am not in favour of raising any dogmatic banner. On the contrary, we must try to help the dogmatists to clarify their propositions for themselves. Thus, communism, in particular, is a dogmatic abstraction; in which connection, however, I am not thinking of some imaginary and possible communism, but actually existing communism as taught by Cabet, Dézamy, Weitling, etc. This communism is itself only a special expression of the humanistic principle, an expression which is still infected by its antithesis – the private system. Hence the abolition of private property and communism are by no means identical, and it is not accidental but inevitable that communism has seen other socialist doctrines – such as those of Fourier, Proudhon, etc. – arising to confront it because it is itself only a special, one-sided realisation of the socialist principle."
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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    It's actually spelled "pyrrhic" illogical is it may seem
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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheUnknownEntity View Post
    It's actually spelled "pyrrhic" illogical is it may seem
    2 mistakes on my side
    "Therefore I am not in favour of raising any dogmatic banner. On the contrary, we must try to help the dogmatists to clarify their propositions for themselves. Thus, communism, in particular, is a dogmatic abstraction; in which connection, however, I am not thinking of some imaginary and possible communism, but actually existing communism as taught by Cabet, Dézamy, Weitling, etc. This communism is itself only a special expression of the humanistic principle, an expression which is still infected by its antithesis – the private system. Hence the abolition of private property and communism are by no means identical, and it is not accidental but inevitable that communism has seen other socialist doctrines – such as those of Fourier, Proudhon, etc. – arising to confront it because it is itself only a special, one-sided realisation of the socialist principle."
    Marx to A.Ruge

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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    Grammar nazis


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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    Without any further scenario info this is really pointless. Also, even if we had a completely detailed scenario, these people didn't live in the same time, so their armies differed immensely due to tech and warfare in their respective ages.
    There's simply no point in asking such a question as in the OP.
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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Selifator View Post
    Without any further scenario info this is really pointless. Also, even if we had a completely detailed scenario, these people didn't live in the same time, so their armies differed immensely due to tech and warfare in their respective ages.
    I wouldn't say so. All three used Hellenistic armies and tactics. Alexander would probably be in a disadvantage with his army because he would be lacking some later developements, such as elephants, or chain mail. May be we should give him a 3rd Century Ptolemaian army to match up?

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    Well since such an anaylsis is impossible, I will just say that tactics wise Hannibal was probably the best. Therefore I would have to choose him. Of course there are so many other factors, but to me Hannibal had the best grasp of warfare and how to defeat and enemy army out of those three.
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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    A mega royal rumble Hannibal VS Alex VS Pyrrhus?

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    After looking at the battle of cannae, I'd say no one of those been able to accomplish what he has done.
    And after looking at the battle of Zama I would say he wouldn't stand a chance against Alexander, since he completley screwed up when marching against his first trully competent opponent. By the way, why is Pyrrhus even included in this poll? He does not belong to the major league.
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    Default Re: Who would win in a battle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Timoleon of Korinthos View Post
    And after looking at the battle of Zama I would say he wouldn't stand a chance against Alexander, since he completley screwed up when marching against his first trully competent opponent. By the way, why is Phyrrs even included in this poll? He does not belong to the major league.
    Yes, why not Gaius Julius Caesar the Dictator, Conqueror of Gaul. I am sure he would pose a greater challenge then Pyrrhus.

    There are plenty of better commanders after all Pyrrhus lost so many men the victory was worthless. The best commanders know when to retreat on Strategic or Tactical grounds.



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    I think Optimus Prime would win

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