How does god judge us?

[Tacitursa]

I want to know how god judge's us.

Does he judge us on our true nature?

Does he judge us on the decisions we made?

Does he judge us on how we lived our lives?

Can somebody explain the process to me i have some questions to ask about it.

[Chlodwig I.]

Which Religon?

[Tacitursa]

Christianity

[Chlodwig I.]

Catholic

Orthodox

Anglican
Baptist
Presbyterian
Lutheran
etc.
?

[Playfishpaste]

I'm (relatively) sure that all forms of christianity hold that god judges people on their relationship (being saved and loving god) and works (actions)

Except maybe buddhist christianity

[Tacitursa]

I'm (relatively) sure that all forms of christianity hold that god judges people on their relationship (being saved and loving god) and works (actions)

Relationship with who or what?

And can somebody comfirm what playfish said

[Banana Jelly]

Relationship with Jesus and God for Christianity.

[Playfishpaste]

Actually ya probably will indeed need a confirmation on that, saving is a bit sketchy for calvinists.

But relationship with god, IE loving him and listening to his word and carrying it out, as well as what you do in life (works).

[Tacitursa]

Does he not take into account your true nature atall?

[Playfishpaste]

Does he not take into account your true nature atall?

What? Define "true nature".

I am pretty sure christianity, and pretty much everybody views their actions as a part of their nature, as well as their emotional bonds (in this case, with god).

[Tacitursa]

What? Define "true nature".

Person 1: Wants to gamble, But dosent because he/she wants to get into heaven.

Person 2: Wants to gamble, Does gamble.


Offering someone a reward for not doing something does not make that person better in my opinion.

God is like a rich man and his follower's are gold diggers. They dont mind sleeping with god and faking it aslong as they get heaven.

If god does not judge us by our true nature the above statement for the most part is true.

[Playfishpaste]

That story also provides another important element. The reason god is allowed to judge instead of humans is because humans do not know all the details and cannot fully sympathize with those tried, nor can they fully understand all of the elements of the crime to weigh it perfectly.

Though that kind of messes up at the end with god being a pansy, but I guess the idea there is the humans act as god judges on earth through his book.

Person 1: Wants to gamble, But dosent because he/she wants to get into heaven.

Person 2: Wants to gamble, Does gamble.

Both are not being moral at all. The bible does not say do not gamble out of fear of god's judgement, but do not gamble out of love.

Offering someone a reward for not doing something does not make that person better in my opinion.

In my opinion as well, and the opinion of christians.

God is like a rich man and his follower's are gold diggers. They dont mind sleeping with god and faking it aslong as they get heaven.

Not the case. Christianity makes this impossible because of the "relationship" clause.

If god does not judge us by our true nature the above statement for the most part is true.

I guess by nature you still mean actions. In this case the action being "don't gamble out of fear of hell".

The reason you don't gamble is love of god, which comes after you know him.

[SigniferOne]

Person 1: Wants to gamble, But dosent because he/she wants to get into heaven.

Person 2: Wants to gamble, Does gamble.

In what way does gambling have anything to do with religion? Are you kidding me?

So I still don't know what you mean by our 'true nature'. We are what we do. If we do and think good, we are good. If we do and think bad, we are bad. It's as simple as that.

[Yaga Shu Ra]

Does he not take into account your true nature atall?

How could He not? Our guilty disobedience "got us into this mess" in the first place.

[Phier]

Back in a Catholic school, we read a short story. I forget the name of the story or the author, but I'm sure someone here knows it.

Anyways the short synopsis is that a horrible murder and thief dies and is on trial to determine if he goes to heaven or hell. God is the witness, but go being all knowing knows every detail on why the man was a murderer, what motivated him both in and out of his control, etc. God has the ultimate sympathy for the man as he fully understands him.

The man was sentenced to hell. Men not god stood stood in judgement, being god could never find anyone guilty.

I thought it made a good deal of sense at the time, but the story actually annoyed the teacher who said he couldn't envision god being such a wimp.

[Playfishpaste]

DP

[germ14]

God can judge because he made the universe and its laws. If we are found to have sin, we are separated from God forever, if we have a relationship with Jesus Christ, we spend eternity with God.

[germ14]

I think he is talking about the imaginary belief that people are inherently good, rather than inherently evil.

[Sir Winston Churchill]

I believe God does not judge which religion you follow, as long as it does not openly attack his existence saying he's just a fairy tale and what not. Even so, I do not think even that will disallow you being granted access to heaven, as you now know the truth whereas you might not have had similar knowledge in the mortal world.

I think he solely judges our souls on how we lived our lives, what we did during them, and if we did any good to make up for the bad we did. If you were a genuinely good person yet a very active and convictions Atheist, God will let you into heaven. In my opinion he's not the "You believe in me or burn..." type of guy.

[germ14]

Isarith, you are wrong, read John 14:6,Romans 1:18, 2:1-2, 3:10-18,23. Notice the use of the word "the" as in singular in John 14:6. In Romans 1:18, all unrighteousness (sin) will be punished. Rom. 2:1-2 God judges those who practice unrighteousness. In 3:10-18 explains the inherent evil of man. And 3:23 states again, all have sinned.