Requests for H battles

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

Well, Calvin's passing ground me back to work on these battles. I am upset, but I know that we all need to pull together more now that he is gone from us.

Basically, these are the battles I have done/want to to do:

Pharsalus

Beth Horon

Disappearance of the Ninth Hispana

Allia (Hell yes!)

Zama (Maybe)

Pydna (Maybe)


That is the extent of my current brainpower. I was wondering if anyone had any requests? I would love some obscure but fun battle that did not feature Romans. As you have probably noticed, every single one of the above scenarios does feature Romans. Any ideas?

Cheers.

Also, is anyone planning on replacing the Historical Battle picture? If not, I would love to do it myself. Thanks.

[Brusilov]

Is it possible to re-do some of the existing RTW historical battles?

I've always thought Cynoscephalae (legion vs phalanx) was interesting - maybe that's what I saw on the TV version rather than the in-game one (which was a pale comparison to the Time Commanders one).

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

Is it possible to re-do some of the existing RTW historical battles?

I've always thought Cynoscephalae (legion vs phalanx) was interesting - maybe that's what I saw on the TV version rather than the in-game one (which was a pale comparison to the Time Commanders one).

That's why I am doing Pydna. Google it, it is the archtypal Legion vs Phalanx battle. It is also from the Romano-Macedonian war, but Pydna was a more crushing victory. It proved, once and for all, that the flexibilty and close-combat effectiveness of a manipular formation is far superior to a phalanx.

[Brusilov]

That's why I am doing Pydna. Google it, it is the archtypal Legion vs Phalanx battle. It is also from the Romano-Macedonian war, but Pydna was a more crushing victory. It proved, once and for all, that the flexibilty and close-combat effectiveness of a manipular formation is far superior to a phalanx.

I think I'd prefer a battle that wasn't so one sided - after all the battles should be a challenge rather than a walk over. This way they will be worth playing more than once.

Having had a quick read it appears as if the Romans won by backing off and luring the phalanx after them uphill.....

[SonOfAlexander]

I know it was on vanilla, but lake trasimene?
How about the ambush of Trebia too?
Ticinus while were at it

Forgetting Hannibal...

Some of those massive battles between marius and the cimbri (seeing as we have the new faction now)?
How about the battle between suetonius pallinus and Boudicca?

[Killerbee]

I'd be glad to say i can help you out with the scripting as much as i can

[SonOfAlexander]

Oh, do you need descriptions written for the screen where you select the battles?
I CAN help out with THAT

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

Oh, do you need descriptions written for the screen where you select the battles?
I CAN help out with THAT

lol, as a history lecturer, that's the bit I most enjoy! Don't take it away from me!

[jk]. If it all gets too much, I'll know who to call.

[SonOfAlexander]

lol, as a history lecturer, that's the bit I most enjoy! Don't take it away from me!

[jk]. If it all gets too much, I'll know who to call.

Haha There had to be a spanner in the works of my well - planned... plan, somewhere

Damn right - GHOSTBUSTERS! Seriously though, with the overworking of Tone due to dvk901's RL problems and Calvin... well, I want to help out all I can with the overstretched guys here on RS2. Problem is, I know didly squat about coding and cant help with beta because my computer uses stone tablets instead of microchips Will gladly help with anything verbal though

[cherryfunk]

I'd hold off on these until the map is final -- changes to map heights will impact the tiles you've selected.

[Mulattothrasher]

Unfortunately the Allia cannot be done...accurately that is. Rome did not have the Marian legions at the time of teh battle in c. 390 B.C.

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

Unfortunately the Allia cannot be done...accurately that is. Rome did not have the Marian legions at the time of teh battle in c. 390 B.C.

Oh I know that. They didn't have Polybian legions either, they were using basic pike militia, just like the rest of the area. Don't worry, t'is all good!

[dvk901]

I'd hold off on these until the map is final -- changes to map heights will impact the tiles you've selected.

The changes shouldn't be that drastic? If this is going to get done, it needs to be done now...not later.

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

The changes shouldn't be that drastic? If this is going to get done, it needs to be done now...not later.

I shall interpret that as a request to get going. If I screw it up tile wise, I shall have to cure it later.

[Maximus Macro]

maybe some of Caesar for the many roman fans.

battle of Bibracte- 58b.c Caesar supports allied Aedui and defeats the Helvetii during there migration west.
battle of the Sambre- 57b.c Belgae suffer hard fought defeat against the legions of Rome, at the banks of the river Sambre.
battle of Pharsalus- 48b.c Finalbattle of Pompeius Magnus against Gaius Julius Caesar near the city of Dyrrachium

[Paedric]

Are battles with more than two players easily doable?

battle of Ipsus : Ptolemaics against Macedonians and Seleucids
battle of Arausio : Crushing defeat of the Romans against the Cimbri

[cherryfunk]

Macro has a great idea with Caesar vs. the Belgae at the river Sambre, since the Belgae are one of our unique new factions and the battle was a very tough one for Rome:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

The Battle of the Sabis or Sambre:

The Nervii were the largest remaining hostile tribe. They were stationed with the Trebates, Viromandui on the far side of the Sabis river. They were expecting the Atuabantes. Both sides had informants, so the Nervii knew how the Romans traveled. The Romans were vulnerable while on the march. The Nervii gave evidence that they would challenge Caesar's crossing, so Caesar rearranged his troops so that experienced legions would be together; the baggage and the two new legions apart. When they stopped, most of the men worked on the campsite so it could be done as quickly as possible. This left the Romans unarmed.

The Nervii Attack:

As soon as the Nervii sighted the baggage trains, they rushed from their hiding places, routed the Roman cavalry and then attacked the men working on building the camp. There was no time for the Romans to prepare for battle. Instead, the leaders gathered together those men who were nearest. Caesar ordered the 10th Legion to charge and so halt the Atrebantes. Other legions were making headway against the Viromandui, but most of the Nervii were on the Roman right flank, where the Romans were not holding their own. Caesar grabbed a shield and ran up to the front line, yelling encouragement to his men.

The Battle Turns:

While Caesar inspired the fighters, it was another event that turned the tide and let the Romans win. The Nervii caught site of the two new legions who had been behind the baggage train. They were still fresh, encouraging to Romans and discouraging to battle-weary Belgians. The 10th legion went after the Nervii from their rear and the new legions joined the fighting. The Nervii continued to fight for a long time. When they surrendered, Caesar ordered them to stay within their own territories.


http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/c...abisBattle.htm

[Killerbee]

Macro has a great idea with Caesar vs. the Belgae at the river Sambre, since the Belgae are one of our unique new factions and the battle was a very tough one for Rome:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

The Battle of the Sabis or Sambre:

The Nervii were the largest remaining hostile tribe. They were stationed with the Trebates, Viromandui on the far side of the Sabis river. They were expecting the Atuabantes. Both sides had informants, so the Nervii knew how the Romans traveled. The Romans were vulnerable while on the march. The Nervii gave evidence that they would challenge Caesar's crossing, so Caesar rearranged his troops so that experienced legions would be together; the baggage and the two new legions apart. When they stopped, most of the men worked on the campsite so it could be done as quickly as possible. This left the Romans unarmed.

The Nervii Attack:

As soon as the Nervii sighted the baggage trains, they rushed from their hiding places, routed the Roman cavalry and then attacked the men working on building the camp. There was no time for the Romans to prepare for battle. Instead, the leaders gathered together those men who were nearest. Caesar ordered the 10th Legion to charge and so halt the Atrebantes. Other legions were making headway against the Viromandui, but most of the Nervii were on the Roman right flank, where the Romans were not holding their own. Caesar grabbed a shield and ran up to the front line, yelling encouragement to his men.

The Battle Turns:

While Caesar inspired the fighters, it was another event that turned the tide and let the Romans win. The Nervii caught site of the two new legions who had been behind the baggage train. They were still fresh, encouraging to Romans and discouraging to battle-weary Belgians. The 10th legion went after the Nervii from their rear and the new legions joined the fighting. The Nervii continued to fight for a long time. When they surrendered, Caesar ordered them to stay within their own territories.


http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/c...abisBattle.htm

Looks like a nice and hard battle for the Romans

[Alavaria]

Hmm, I would kind of do that, it would break the formation up.

Still, probably easier (given the AI, and how attack/defense is) to have one unit strung out to keep the phalanxes all busy and go around the side. Have men throw pila then get into the swordfighting.

[ray243]

How about the battle of watling street?

Some of Caesar's battle in the gallic wars would also be nice.

In regards to the battle of Pharsalus, won't it be better if Casear commanded more than one legion? After all, if I recall things correctly, none of Caesar's legions are at full strength in that battle. 20 unit slots should be enough to depict how many legions is under Caesar's command.