Re: Help please!!!!

**Gigantus** · October 26, 2009, 04:20 AM

I would suggest to go to the Broken Crescent forum, my guess it is the short cut that isn't functioning properly. Personally I don't approve of mods that install into the root folder, so I am afraid I am biased towards problems that occur with mods like that.

@Irish
maybe move the thread into their forum?

**wudang_clown** · October 26, 2009, 03:13 PM

Nesai posted his request in BC forum, but I'm unable to help him, as others, apparently. I've adviced him to post in general M2TW tech forum, because I think the error he's experiencing have nothing to do with BC but is an issue with his system. I'm almost sure that it isn't fault of non working shortcut - the mod wouldn't had launched without any error.

I don't want to be rude, but shouldn't you (not necessarily you, gigantus) help him in the Tech forum instead of moving his request without any investigation form your side? It is his fault that he didn't explain that he had already asked for help in BC forum, but was adviced to post in general Tech forum, but isn't it also weird that you just moved his request?

**Gigantus** · October 26, 2009, 08:51 PM

Could you give a link to his previous query in your forum please?

**wudang_clown** · October 27, 2009, 02:38 AM

Yes, of course, it is Nesai's request posted on www.brokencrescent.com.

**Gigantus** · October 27, 2009, 02:52 AM

Doesn't look as if anyone gave him an answer (or a try) in your forum either.

My advice would be:
- re-install Vanilla and Kingdoms
- try if the games work
- install BC
- try if that works

If it doesn't work (the last step), then I guess it is back to you, wouldn't you think?

You should really make an effort to mod folder BC, takes approximately 30 minutes to do so. Might enable it for kingdoms features while you are at it (another 10 minutes). Did that before I gave you the mongol captain fix. Luckily I usually install into a test folder first, wouldn't have been amused to get all my add ons messed up.

**wudang_clown** · October 27, 2009, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by gigantus

Doesn't look as if anyone gave him an answer (or a try) in your forum either.

Nesai PMed me first, before making his thread in the tech forum. I suppose it is his system issue, not BC. I have my vanilla unpacked and it works fine (campaign and battles load successfully), the same for BC and few other mods I have installed. I thought re-installation won't help him and to reinstall the system because of mod is too much, I guess. So I adviced Nesai to post in general M2TW Tech forum on TWC.
Don't you think it should be a common problem if BC indeed had been messing up vanilla animations or anything?

But yes, mod-foldering it is the best idea, so I will contact the guys.

Thanks for your help.

**Nesai** · October 27, 2009, 03:22 AM

This problem has nothing to do with Bc because even without Bc M2TW doesnt work.
I did re-installation so many times without Bc it didnt help.

**Gigantus** · October 27, 2009, 04:38 AM

Now if all this information had been presented in the tech forum, then certainly someone might have had a bright idea. This looks like a problem with a program that Securom thinks is a pirating one (Nero comes to mind). Irishron will know more about that. My suggestion:

- List all the stuff that has been said here and represent your case in the tech forum.
- PMs do not help anyone in a case like this if more then one PM is needed. You will just have to do it all over again as you have just noticed, isn't it?
- When asking for help, be a bit more precise by way of pointer when it comes to your header ("Help me" usually makes me stop: "what did this noob do wrong?" is my first reaction).
- Give as much information as you can in a precise manner: when, how, what. Simple.

As to the mod foldering: it tremendously simplifies error tracing\finding. Because it is in one folder nothing from the original game has been disturbed. Ergo the fault will be in the mod folder. (It's not always that easy, mind you)